I Guess it's Time to Discuss January 6th

[calamus]

We were all present on January 6, 2021. We know about the Trump speech and its content. We know about the woman killed and why. We know about the weapons used. We heard the defendant testimonies where they thought they were following Trump's lead. We know it wasn't a walk in the park. We know the injuries inflicted on the Capital Police. What has occurred and with glaring evidence presented here, is an attempt to rewrite what actually happened. I've noticed it gradually evolve from what it was into something different. There must be someone influencing the three members here to asked about the female killed for trying to enter a window near where the politicians were meeting as if she was not doing what the video clearly depicted.

Later we learned of Trump's activities on January 6, 2021 by multiple testimonies. We know what he said when he was pressured to call off the insurrectionists. We know they were charged with insurrection and are doing time as a result. We know or knew it was available, testimony of those inside the White House. We know Trump's circle of co-conspirators and what they did to overturn the votes of our fellow Americans.

It is either a mental sickness or illusion to speak of this as not what it was, but my concern is that what we are reading here is a radicalization of Americans who decide that if you don't like the history, change the narrative into something you prefer.

What Is Projection?
Unconscious discomfort can lead people to attribute unacceptable feelings or impulses to someone else to avoid confronting them. Projection allows the difficult trait to be addressed without the individual fully recognizing it in themselves.

In case the subtlety is lost on you, allow me to spell it out: You are doing exactly what you are accusing those who haven't been brainwashed by the controlled media of doing.

[TSherbs]

Calamus, perhaps you might pick just one of the guilty decisions (most have been pleas, after all) and explain which of the crimes that they were found guilty of were actually not correct. If the entire thing is a kangaroo court, as you say, then you should have hundreds of false charges and errant convictions to choose from.

[calamus]

Plea deal says it all. Just plead guilty and you get a slap on the wrist; don't accept the plea, and you're looking at some nasty charges, all the way up to treason.

[dneal]

This sort of government overreach and abuse of the justice system used to be the things liberals were fundamentally opposed to.

When they aren't the target, they celebrate it.

[TSherbs]

Plea deal says it all. Just plead guilty and you get a slap on the wrist; don't accept the plea, and you're looking at some nasty charges, all the way up to treason.

"says it all"?

I am asking, is there a crime that someone has plead guilty to that they are in fact not guilty of? Is there a conviction that is false? I don't recall that anyone has been charged with nor been convicted of "treason."

[dneal]

So if a Capitol Police Special Agent lied in court, testifying he witnessed something while he was actually in a different building; do we still celebrate the convictions his perjury helped obtain?

[TSherbs]

70 months for this braggart:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...-ye-rcna123188

Calamus, which of the eight felonies that this guy was convicted of are false?

[dneal]

Apparently some do celebrate still.

I hope the testimony wasn’t perjury. We already know of two officers so far. I’m sure this efficient and completely fair justice system will see they get what they deserve, and correct any mistakes that may have resulted from these deceptions.

These collapsing narratives are so inconvenient…

[TSherbs]

Calamus, here's the list of felony convictions for both Klein and Capuccio.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/t...harges-related

Which of these felony convictions is false? There's a lot to choose among for consideration. And is, therefore, this Trump-appointed judge part of some vast "kangaroo" (your term) conspiracy to falsely charge and convict these persons? If so, which charge(s) is false?

[dneal]

The argument would be better taken if you bothered to acknowledge that there is question to this entire event, and "insurrection" is hyperbole.

I'm honestly not sure if you choose to disbelieve/dismiss it, or are really unaware.

Bill Maher (a reasonable old-school leftie), complaining of Trump's election denying, legitimately seemed unaware that Hillary (even to this day) publicly calls her election stolen.

He also clearly stated that he is very selective in his media, and tends to the "standard". WashPost, NYT, NBC News, and all the other legacy media. He's still thinking of Dan Rather coming on every evening and explaining the world to him. Fighting in Rhodesia. Tsunami in Pago-Pago.

It leads me to simply wonder if this is the case with a certain perspective here. Simple ignorance (which I say without a perjurious intent).

[TSherbs]

Spraying Capitol officers with toxic chemicals while trying to interrupt a lawful transfer of power in the most powerful democracy in the world: 3 years in jail

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...ed-jan-6-case/

He plead guilty, although he also stated that he will "never surrender to dictatorship, corruption, communism, or socialism." Alrighty. He's still confused, I see.

[TSherbs]

Here's another dude, still looking for food for his ego and sense of self-grandeur: Alexander Shepard: "Today I turn myself in to federal prison for the 19 month sentence I received for peacefully protesting inside the People’s House on January 6th, 2021."

Well, this one is confused, too. Or simply uninterested in the charges against him (and the laws he violated). He'll get arrested (likely clubbed in the head first) if he "peacefully protests inside" my house, too.

He said that he is "proud" to be a "political prisoner." Awesome. Remember to tell your future life partner and maybe children how proud you were. Cuz "pride" in ignorance and in trying to disrupt the lawful transfer of power in a democracy is such a virtue.

[TSherbs]

When it rains, it pours:

Four more, convicted by a jury:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...racy-104728335

Not sure how this one fits into Calamus' kangaroo court conspiracy theory. A whole lot of people have to be in on it! Even ordinary citizens doing their civic duty of jury time.

[724Seney]

Not sure how this one fits into Calamus' kangaroo court conspiracy theory.

Simple answer:
French philosopher Henri Bergson has a famous quote: "The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend."
You mind is totally unprepared to comprehend ANYTHING which does not fit into your warped, misdirected and uninformed woke narrative.

[Chuck Naill]

Seny, you were alive when this occurred. Are you now allowing someone to convince you it was not what you saw?

Seny is a good example of how our minds can be manipulated. Sad.

[724Seney]

Seny, you were alive when this occurred. Are you now allowing someone to convince you it was not what you saw?

Seny is a good example of how our minds can be manipulated. Sad.

There you go projecting again Chuck.......

I saw what I saw and I read what I read.
They were quite different.

But, I wouldn't expect someone as brainwashed as you to understand this concept.

Sorry to interrupt your cocktail hour(s) with a dose of reality. Booze on Bozo.

[Chuck Naill]

You saw what you saw? What did you see, Seny?

[724Seney]

You saw what you saw? What did you see, Seny?

Round and round and round we go.
Yawn.............

[TSherbs]

"Spider Nazi" pleads guilty to misdemeanors (but a sentencing enhancement possible for contact with officers): https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...rge-rcna124089

[TSherbs]

This guy in NJ has thus far eluded arrest. But that won't last. Hopefully, no one will get hurt. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...-riot/4842872/