I Guess it's Time to Discuss January 6th

[TSherbs]

How many have died with the implementation of his plan?

If you can't tell us the answer to this, then this question is just a smear.

Here is one study that actually has been done, estimating that the vaccines saved 20,000,0000 lives world wide in just one year. This, by the way, was a major part of "Fauci and company's" recommendations to America. The study, let it be noted, rues the fact that more people did not get vaccinated. The lower vaccination rate meant that more people died.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...n-lives-1-year

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[TSherbs]

Others point out that the virus becomes endemic with herd immunity - which is not "an illusion". It's a fundamental principle.

If herd immunity can not be attained without an unacceptable level of damage (death, long-COVID, repeat "customers"), that fundamental principle is moot.

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Besides, "herd immunity" cannot be guaranteed, especially with a new virus. There are all variety of outcomes possible, including no broad immunity ever.

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[Bold2013]

Others point out that the virus becomes endemic with herd immunity - which is not "an illusion". It's a fundamental principle.

If herd immunity can not be attained without an unacceptable level of damage (death, long-COVID, repeat "customers"), that fundamental principle is moot.

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Besides, "herd immunity" cannot be guaranteed, especially with a new virus. There are all variety of outcomes possible, including no broad immunity ever.

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Another reason why vaccine mandates are silly.

[Chuck Naill]

Evangelicals are famous for hosting Chicken Pox Parties as a "herd immunity" tactic. Some doctorial student should do their thesis on how these groups became anti-science. Interestingly, Kenneth Copeland's groups caused measles outbreaks in 2013. It has been quite since. Maybe somebody thought a different tactic was better...LOL!!

[TSherbs]

Others point out that the virus becomes endemic with herd immunity - which is not "an illusion". It's a fundamental principle.

If herd immunity can not be attained without an unacceptable level of damage (death, long-COVID, repeat "customers"), that fundamental principle is moot.

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Besides, "herd immunity" cannot be guaranteed, especially with a new virus. There are all variety of outcomes possible, including no broad immunity ever.

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Another reason why vaccine mandates are silly.

Dude, vaccines saved 20 million lives in 2021 (in just one year). WTF are you talking about?

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[Chuck Naill]

If vaccine mandates are silly, so is being forced to be pregnant.

[Lloyd]

dneal - I'm no longer engaging with you in this topic. Aside from your derogatory tone, I feel like I'm trying to prove the inexistence of a creator to a devout theist.


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[Chuck Naill]

dneal - I'm no longer engaging with you in this topic. Aside from your derogatory tone, I feel like I'm trying to prove the inexistence of a creator to a devout theist.


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Wanna see him come unglued. Just suggest that if he gets sick he not ask for an ICU bed.

[Lloyd]

By the way, the GBD doesn't include any scientific analyses or studies. It's a proposed less-limiting approach to running society during the epidemic. There's no numerical analysis showing its impact on R. So, it's just an alternative bureaucratic approach.

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[Chip]

By the way, the GBD doesn't include any scientific analyses or studies. It's a proposed less-limiting approach to running society during the epidemic. There's no numerical analysis showing its impact on R. So, it's just an alternative bureaucratic approach.

It's worse than that. It aims at supporting corporate profits at the cost of human lives. The sponsoring group, the America Intitute for Economic Research is a far-right libertarian front that owns a private investment firm. Having been the target of similar libertarian recruitment campaigns, aimed at writers, I'd guess that they paid for a posh resort weekend and gave more-than-generous honoraria to the signers. In other words, it's more elite disinformation, practiced for personal gain.

"AIER statements and publications portray the risks of climate change as minor and manageable,[8] with titles such as "What Greta Thunberg Forgets About Climate Change", "The Real Reason Nobody Takes Environmental Activists Seriously" and "Brazilians Should Keep Slashing Their Rainforest".[9][10][11]

The institution has also funded research on the comparative benefits that sweatshops supplying multinationals bring to the people working in them.[12][13]

AIER issued a statement in October 2020 called the Great Barrington Declaration that argued for a herd immunity strategy of "focused protection" to deal with the COVID-19 pandemic.[14] It was roundly condemned by many public health experts.[14][15] Anthony Fauci, the infectious disease expert appointed by the White House, called the declaration "total nonsense" and unscientific.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nomic_Research

[Chuck Naill]

We might be hearing from Alex Jones.

[dneal]

dneal - I'm no longer engaging with you in this topic. Aside from your derogatory tone, I feel like I'm trying to prove the inexistence of a creator to a devout theist.


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You have your metaphor backwards. You’re trying to prove something, but I’m the agnostic.

[Chuck Naill]

Orbain to speak in Dallas. It is amazing what is happening to the Republicans. Just happy to be unaffiliated.
CPAC gives Viktor Orbán, Hungary's autocratic leader, star role in Dallas - https://www.npr.org/2022/08/04/11155...wds-in-the-u-s

[Chip]

Is ignostic a word?

It should be.

[Chuck Naill]

While the Republicans are running around supporting Trump and repeating conspiracy theories, cybersecurity is being ignored.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/04/o...smid=url-share

[Chuck Naill]

And…
https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/statu...200108029.html

[Chip]

[TSherbs]

Another sentence, this one for two years:

Business Insider: Proud Boys member gets 2 years in prison for assaulting police on January 6.

https://www.businessinsider.com/prou...-attack-2022-8

[Chip]

Reality check: If a black man assaults police, he either gets murdered on the spot or put away for a tenner at least.

But these white fascist punks get off with a couple years and a kiss from Trump.

[Lloyd]

... and a kiss from Trump.

I might prefer 10 years in jail...

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