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    Default Let's go back a bit further

    Surely some of you have some older ones ??

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    Default Re: Let's go back a bit further

    From the red pen thread, my 3-25:

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    And my 3C flex:

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    Default Re: Let's go back a bit further

    Those are very nice 👍🏻 Thank you

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    Default Re: Let's go back a bit further

    Oldest I have is my Oversized Balance in Marine. I do want to find something that is of the early 20s or teens for Sheaffer (likewise I want to find something in the Teens for Wahl). That 3C Fred posted is the kind of look I'd aim for but open to other suggestions to hunt down.

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    Default Re: Let's go back a bit further

    Some newer and older Flatops from Parker, Sheaffer, Waterman, Conklin and Inkograph.

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    Balance and Balance like pens.
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    The cornerstone of my Sheaffer collection: a 1925 Jade Senior.



    Here it is, discolored as many early examples are, with a perfect 1929 Jade Lifetime Balance and matching pencils.


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    "When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick;
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    Default Re: Let's go back a bit further

    That Radite pen is from the '30s, and the barber, his customer and the Philco on the shelf are from the '50s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    That Radite pen is from the '30s, and the barber, his customer and the Philco on the shelf are from the '50s.
    You are very likely spot-on with the tonsorial dating, as it was merely a word-play on the common name for that style of pen. However, it is indeed a BCHR pen from the 20s, I believe an 8C. I have more detailed info I can add when Iím able later today...

    Aaaaand, I was able to place my hands on this easier than thought. I was guided to an ID on this pen with help from both Daniel Krichheimer and Roger Wooten. It would be known as either a B8 1/2C or a B8 5C, I think depending on the catalog (or depending on which of these guys you talk to). The name for the pattern on the chasing, which is not captured at all well in my photo, is "ribbon lined". Dating of the pen is narrowed down to 1923-25, based on the fact that the pattern did not appear until 23, and the White Dot came into play in 25. This pen is a full-size, Lifetime pen but pre-WD.
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    Default Re: Let's go back a bit further

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    ...pre-WD.
    That clinches it, and makes me want it. Awfully shiny, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    ...pre-WD.
    That clinches it, and makes me want it. Awfully shiny, though.
    I know. And I keep going back to it and checking, and rubbing and sniffing... maybe it is radite. Chased?

    One I have no doubt on (being ebonite) is the one I am pretty certain I got from you:

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    Nice pen you have there, and I recognize my quarter-sawn oak desktop. :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    ...maybe it is radite. Chased?...
    Nah, you were right the first time. If it is chased, it is hard rubber.

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    Default Re: Let's go back a bit further

    Today I'm using a Montblanc 144 with a Yellow Snow Cap.
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    Default Re: Let's go back a bit further

    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    Today I'm using a Montblanc 144 with a Yellow Snow Cap.
    No white dot?

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    Actually, just flushed the White Dot and put it away. It was an early Tuckaway with the gold-filled cap and the White Dot on the plunger knob. It's the second from the left in this image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    Today I'm using a Montblanc 144 with a Yellow Snow Cap.
    That has to be the Frank Zappa "Nanook" Special Edition.

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