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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

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    Which india ink is the blackest?
    Sumi ink
    I don't think sumi ink is the same as India ink. [Was the supposed to indicate you were joking?]
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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

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    Which india ink is the blackest?
    Sumi ink
    I don't think sumi ink is the same as India ink. [Was the supposed to indicate you were joking?]
    (So sue me, sushi!)
    You're right it isn't. Also as far as drawing inks are concerned, Sumi ink isn't as black as India ink. Sumi ink vs India ink
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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

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    Which india ink is the blackest?
    Sumi ink
    I don't think sumi ink is the same as India ink. [Was the supposed to indicate you were joking?]
    (So sue me, sushi!)
    You're right it isn't. Also as far as drawing inks are concerned, Sumi ink isn't as black as India ink. Sumi ink vs India ink
    Interestin article. Funnily enough, when I was practicing calligraphy I switched from India to Sumi ink (the liquid form). I found it blacker and shinier. But then again it was a longtime ago, and we all know how accurate memory can be

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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

    I use some of Deionized, and that better f me!

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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quyonemarwy View Post
    I use some of Deionized, and that better f me!
    But only if used in hydrostatic fountain pens.

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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tox5-jSGc
    This is quite an interesting Video about the science of Black Ink.
    Whatever the ink is black it's opacity and the light absorbs-on quality varies on paper to paper that is used.
    To my understanding if you use one chosen black ink on <<different papers >> your writing or drawing looks different with luminosity I guess.
    Different ink too has varied opacity in their pigments to react with Paper fibres so they reflect light back as " black" to "very black "or to "very very very black "

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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyril View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tox5-jSGc
    This is quite an interesting Video about the science of Black Ink.
    Whatever the ink is black it's opacity and the light absorbs-on quality varies on paper to paper that is used.
    To my understanding if you use one chosen black ink on your writing or drawing looks different with luminosity I guess.
    Different ink too has varied opacity in their pigments to react with Paper fibres so they reflect light back as " black" to "very black "or to "very very very black "
    While that Noodlers Black is one of my all time favorite inks and color (or lack of color) that video had nothing to do with color. It only demonstrated the ink's opacity and low-feathering properties. A white latex paint would show the same results.... not that I'd use paint in a pen.

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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

    I think this that films is to talk how the opacity in any ink, light transfer and bleeding etc. ( Nathan shows it with his black ink) It is Nothing to do with the COLOUR. and I am not talking about colours on above post...????. But colours also act differently to light transfer too I believe.
    Here we are talking about Black ink and quality of different black ink will give different reading on that light meter he uses.
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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyril View Post
    I think this that films is to talk how the opacity in any ink, light transfer and bleeding etc. ( Nathan shows it with his black ink) It is Nothing to do with the COLOUR. and I am not talking about colours on above post...????. But colours also act differently to light transfer too I believe.
    Here we are talking about Black ink and quality of different black ink will give different reading on that light meter he uses.
    His light meter was only being used in the video to measure light passing through the coated paper. Any color latex paint, or similarly opaque appliable media, would yield the same result.

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    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
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    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

    He doesn't show the reflectance of the ink. The color we see is based on the light that is reflected off of the front of the page. He's showing what light is passed through a saturated piece of paper.

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    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
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    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

    Don't tell me there are flat black, semi-flat black and glossy black fountain pen inks!

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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    Don't tell me there are flat black, semi-flat black and glossy black fountain pen inks!
    Not yet. Perhaps Nathan will release them at some upcoming pen show. Was there was a Benjamin Moore or Sherwin Williams in politics to raise his ire?

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    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: What is the blackest of black inks out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyril View Post
    I think this that films is to talk how the opacity in any ink, light transfer and bleeding etc. ( Nathan shows it with his black ink) It is Nothing to do with the COLOUR. and I am not talking about colours on above post...????. But colours also act differently to light transfer too I believe.
    Here we are talking about Black ink and quality of different black ink will give different reading on that light meter he uses.
    His light meter was only being used in the video to measure light passing through the coated paper. Any color latex paint, or similarly opaque appliable media, would yield the same result.

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