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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
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    dneal, with all due respect, my view of your posts differs greatly from yours. I read the full P51 thread (EoC saved it and shared it) and your words could not be justified. I wish you would read more of your own posts as thoroughly, and as much in an attempt to use it against the poster, as you do to other's posts.

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    I am very cognizant of what I post, and why. I'm well aware this medium is prone to misunderstanding. Expletives are not, which is why I use them when I choose. I make no apologies for it. EoC is entitled to his perspective, and so are you.

    Perhaps you would do well to heed your own advice. Your posts now appear to me to be petty and bickering - your Monty Python argument. I'm done playing with that. There is much you seemingly are not aware of, and certainly much you are not privy to.
    I'm far from "here for an argument". Unlike many of your postings, I'm sincere and have largely avoided personal attacks and the use of overly aggressive tones. If you mean by "not privy to" you mean that a bunch of members were PMing about EoC, that doesn't concern me (although you or they might want to admit it openly). I haven't posted anything contentious or offensive in this thread, have I? If you feel like it's pointless, you needn't read not post in it.
    Also, many members here would disagree with your self-evaluation. You may acknowledge your improper posts, but you filter the intensity of their egregiousness.

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    To answer the title's question- it depends on where you go within the forum and what you want to experience here.

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    You're not here for an argument, and then post an argument.

    You sir, appear to be holding the horsewhip. Beat away, but you'll have to do it without me.

    Finish every day, and be done with it.
    You have done what you could - some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in, forget them as fast as you can, tomorrow is a new day.
    You shall begin it well and serenly, and with too high a spirit to be cumbered with your old nonsense.

    Emerson

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    What I want to experience here is what this forum was created to provide. That is conversation about fountain pens, their accoutrements, use, and other related matters.

    Can we now end this discussion and move on to the subjects of pens and inks?



    Oh, and for the record, everything I have had to say to anyone here about this 'episode', or persons involved has been done in open forum only.

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    You're not here for an argument, and then post an argument.

    You sir, appear to be holding the horsewhip. Beat away, but you'll have to do it without me.
    I'm not here (in this thread nor in this forum) for an argument. I'm not sure why you, or anyone, minds my statements in this thread. They haven't been directed harshly at anyone and they are connected with the op's query. I'd like to see a warmer, more supportive, community. Even within the political+ subforum, it isn't about learning others views in an effort to see both sides and strengthen the group, it's often an US vs THEM palace of mockery. I'm not going to point fingers at individuals nor trigger-topics, I'm merely stating what I've seen. As I've written, I doubt many would discuss things and treat each other, brothers and sisters of a small pen-loving community, this way in person. Why act this way here?

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    To those complaining about potential horse-whipping, no one in this forum needs to stay in this thread. I'm not calling anyone names. I feel it's relevant to both the op's post and recent events. If the op requests here or via pm that I desist, I will.

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    Quote Originally Posted by eachan View Post
    I'm pleased with how the forum handled this. There was a problem which was becoming ever more severe and the forum discussed it reasonably and calmly. A resolution appears to have been reached. Well done!
    You would appear to be saying that the forum colluded by joint enterprise to produce a situation where the continued participation of one member was untenable and that you and/or others chose this path for yourselves as opposed to Ignoring their posts.

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eachan View Post
    I'm pleased with how the forum handled this. There was a problem which was becoming ever more severe and the forum discussed it reasonably and calmly. A resolution appears to have been reached. Well done!
    You would appear to be saying that the forum colluded by joint enterprise to produce a situation where the continued participation of one member was untenable and that you and/or others chose this path for yourselves as opposed to Ignoring their posts.
    That's your spin on it. I said what I said and it isn't improved by your interpretation.

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

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    The "Politics, Religion, and Culture" sub-forum has turned into the "Lord of the Flies". Unfortunate, there's now a bridge from that subforum to the rest of this forum.

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    Ha! I teach that book to 9th graders (finished it about a month ago).
    (Thread hijack?) I have something to say about that book to anyone who is interested.

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Niner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
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    The "Politics, Religion, and Culture" sub-forum has turned into the "Lord of the Flies". Unfortunate, there's now a bridge from that subforum to the rest of this forum.


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    Ha! I teach that book to 9th graders (finished it about a month ago).
    (Thread hijack?) I have something to say about that book to anyone who is interested.
    Was it based on one of your boy scout adventures that went awry? 😄
    (I thought I'd add a bit of levity to this serious thread. It's the way my brain works.)

    Why not start a new thread here, Niner?
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    Last edited by Lloyd; May 14th, 2022 at 09:04 PM.
    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
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    (Thread hijack?) I have something to say about that book to anyone who is interested.
    Was it based on one of your boy scout adventures that went awry? 😄
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    Why not start a new thread here, Niner?
    Oh, no! I wasn't prepared for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner View Post

    (Thread hijack?) I have something to say about that book to anyone who is interested.
    Was it based on one of your boy scout adventures that went awry? 😄
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    Why not start a new thread here, Niner?
    Oh, no! I wasn't prepared for that.
    Please?

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Please?
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    Boy Scouts are to be "always prepared". But I wasn't, having hijacked a thread rather than creating a new one. I realize that my previous reply to you was obscure. Sorry.
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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    I'm puzzled. Could someone post a calm and collected summary of the events leading to EoC's dramatic exit?

    I had one tiff with him, months ago, over his disregard of elementary physics in predicting a human exodus to the stars. I was rude and apologised, and he accepted in good part. Otherwise, I got on well with him.

    Evidently, there was quite a lot that I missed.

    Any help?

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip View Post
    I'm puzzled. Could someone post a calm and collected summary of the events leading to EoC's dramatic exit?

    I had one tiff with him, months ago, over his disregard of elementary physics in predicting a human exodus to the stars. I was rude and apologised, and he accepted in good part. Otherwise, I got on well with him.

    Evidently, there was quite a lot that I missed.

    Any help?
    Start anywhere you like on this thread from the bottom of page one on to about the middle of page four and all will be revealed.

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    There is always the odd chance that someone might post incorrect material or even annoying content.

    I'm pretty sure it's just another Urban Legend but the story goes that someone really did post something that's wrong on the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    There is always the odd chance that someone might post incorrect material or even annoying content.

    I'm pretty sure it's just another Urban Legend but the story goes that someone really did post something that's wrong on the Internet.
    Thankfully, two wrongs make a right.

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    There is always the odd chance that someone might post incorrect material or even annoying content.

    I'm pretty sure it's just another Urban Legend but the story goes that someone really did post something that's wrong on the Internet.
    Thankfully, two wrongs make a right.

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    I thought it was three lefts to make a right.

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Farmboy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    There is always the odd chance that someone might post incorrect material or even annoying content.

    I'm pretty sure it's just another Urban Legend but the story goes that someone really did post something that's wrong on the Internet.
    Thankfully, two wrongs make a right.

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    I thought it was three lefts to make a right.
    Of course. That's because one wrong equals 1 lefts.

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Is FPGeeks still a pleasant place to stay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Farmboy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    There is always the odd chance that someone might post incorrect material or even annoying content.

    I'm pretty sure it's just another Urban Legend but the story goes that someone really did post something that's wrong on the Internet.
    Thankfully, two wrongs make a right.

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    I thought it was three lefts to make a right.
    These days, three Lefts make a "Mostly" Peaceful Protest in my town and call it a right. On Twitter, three Lefts cancel a Right.... and call it a right

    Bob

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