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    Murder for the purpose of organ harvesting. Vivisection. Chattel slavery. Torture camps. Suppression of every natural right. Nearly unfathomable pollution. Much or all of it existing in the supply chain of virtually any item imported from Red China to the West. One tries to dodge supporting that system as much as is practical, or one does not. Pens aren't special.
    Last edited by Niner; June 2nd, 2022 at 09:26 PM. Reason: verb tense

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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    Clearly you're a racist.
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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    Or transgenderphobist…..😂

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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    Only one of my Chinese pens is red. The other 20 or so complete the 🌈.

    I salute your desire to avoid some purchases on principle. I do the same, just not about China.

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    Clearly TSherbs hates the Uighurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner View Post
    Murder for the purpose of organ harvesting. Vivisection. Chattel slavery. Torture camps. Suppression of every natural right. Nearly unfathomable pollution. Much or all of it existing in the supply chain of virtually any item imported from Red China to the West. One tries to dodge supporting that system as much as is practical, or one does not. Pens aren't special.
    Do you shop at WalMart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Niner View Post
    Murder for the purpose of organ harvesting. Vivisection. Chattel slavery. Torture camps. Suppression of every natural right. Nearly unfathomable pollution. Much or all of it existing in the supply chain of virtually any item imported from Red China to the West. One tries to dodge supporting that system as much as is practical, or one does not. Pens aren't special.
    Do you shop at WalMart?
    I recall a time when Wal-Mart (as it then styled itself) touted the "Made in U.S.A." origin of much of their stock. I shopped at Wal-Mart then. I know that WalMart currently stocks a high percentage of made in Red China items. I have heard, though I cannot verify, that WalMart has even pressured vendors to move production facilities from the US to Red China. I have avoided shopping at WalMart for many years because of the company's support for Red China. I did purchase an urgently needed item from a WalMart about ten years ago. The item was made in the US.

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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    Does your animus extend to products made in other countries that mistreat elements of its own population?

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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    I don't have any Chinese pens, red, green, blue, pink, or otherwise.

    What about German pens? Japanese pens? English pens? American pens?

    Is there a statute of limitations? Quite a few nations have perpetrated atrocities.
    Last edited by Chip; June 3rd, 2022 at 11:14 PM.

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    Where are the components of you phone/computer made?

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    Apple Mac Mini and iPad. So, China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Does your animus extend to products made in other countries that mistreat elements of its own population?
    Not specifically. Rather, it extends to products whose purchase would tend to support abuse of humans and, to a lesser extent, abuse of the environment and of animals. Countries that mistreat elements of their own population are, though, captured in that.
    Last edited by Niner; June 4th, 2022 at 08:38 PM. Reason: included TShrebs quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Does your animus extend to products made in other countries that mistreat elements of its own population?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Where are the components of you phone/computer made?

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    Didn't catch me out on your first attempt, eh? I don't fault you for that. Who, after all, has time nowadays to bulletproof retorts?

    I do own some things that were made in Red China.


    Quote Originally Posted by Niner View Post
    One tries to dodge supporting that system as much as is practical, or one does not. Pens aren't special.
    "Practical" is in the eye of the person whose nom de plume is Niner.
    Last edited by Niner; June 4th, 2022 at 09:18 PM. Reason: corrected punctuation

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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    Here's my post from the other thread. Sorry that I drifted across threads there...

    >>>So you meant it as a compliment? Nothing pejorative? No negative connotation? You know, like simply having said "China" would not have been enough, so you had to append the word "Red" just to make sure which "China" you meant to go along with all the other negative references you listed?

    Come on, Niner. My only point is that you engaged in the same kind of negative labeling that you were decrying. We've all slipped into it around here. You, too, it turns out.

    If you'd like to debate the difference between buying pens from small Chinese shop owners and trying to make a stand against Chinese governmental abuses, I'm all in. The governmental abuses I abhor. The small shop owner trying to eke out a living through ebay to the global market I support. I feel the same way about, say, vendors in Arkansas or Indiana. The governing bodies and persons of those states I find cruelly errant. But that has nothing to do with how I feel about purchasing products from businesses or individuals in those states.

    You are of course free, as I said above, to govern your purchasing patterns according to whatever rules of thumb that you wish. For me, the conusmer is king/queen etc.<<<

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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    I like Wing Sung 601 pens .

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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    Which other "China" could you have possibly meant, Niner?

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    All the hubbub about red Chinese pens....Is it ok to buy Chinese pens in colors aside from red?

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    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    I’d say, have at it!

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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    Communist red.... who has created it???
    Who has created ALIBABA SO IMPORTANT? AND WHY ALIBABA IS REPRESENTING AS AN IMPORTANT VOICE IN WEF to tell us everything we eat on or plate has the effective CARBAN PRINTS
    AND THEY ARE CONNECTED TO THE GLOBAL ENVIRONMENT DISASTERS,So lick the plate very carefully if not they put Penalty charges. LOL...
    Do we have to reject ALIBABA??

    Apple and peaches are depending on red community and iCloud is made/base in china!!!!!
    Main military tech is based on the core-chip tech of origin Taiwan and it will be soon seized by Red community??

    Many pens other than red are made to be disposable= short lasting
    Last edited by Cyril; June 12th, 2022 at 04:45 PM.

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    Default Re: Red Chinese Pens

    The US Congress passed a law banning imports and trade with Xinjiang, signed by Biden in December and just implemented today. Given the complexity of sourcing and supply chains, it might prove difficult to enforce.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/c...gins-rcna34673

    https://asiatimes.com/2022/06/xinjia...-us-relations/

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