Lloyd (August 27th, 2022)
LOL!!
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
It probably does as the "law of reciprocity", but the truth of the matter is valid none-the-less.
So, I suspect you are a nice person, or hope to be? Have you ever lied? If so, does your action invalidate the commandment of not bearing a false witness? Asking for a friend....;0
If you hate religions and all the nonsense, by what standard do you CHOOSE to live?
Last edited by Chuck Naill; August 27th, 2022 at 12:40 PM.
I have my own moral code that I try to follow. I don't do it to earn an idyllic afterlife, to avoid eternal damnation, to appease some vengeful master, to please the rain gods,....
The Law of Reciprocity (Golden Rule) is a part of it - it entails no need for Religion.
Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
What is your moral code, Lloyd?
Not that it matters, but your prolonged explanation of what it is not, and avoidance of my question is humorous. I am not sure I have a moral code, but I know right from wrong.
Last edited by Chuck Naill; August 27th, 2022 at 03:33 PM.
Defining one's moral code in verbiage, as opposed to as a gut feeling, is not something for a terse forum entry. Could you do it? You know what you call right and what you call wrong. Is everything (every act) so black or white or are there grays? Can you list all of your bads, all of your goods, and all of your grays? If not, why expect anyone else to?
Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
For me, a moral code is how one decides to behave toward others and nature. There can be reasons for that behavior like religion, political affiliation, or social norms where we live. Some writers refer to someone having or not having a moral center. I don't think it is simply what is right or wrong, but as you say, sometimes gray.
I also don't think that it is possible to always be the person you want to be for a variety of reasons. It is like you want to always do all the good you can. Perhaps this want is the same having a moral center.
Another problem is holding up heroes as a way to live. The problem is we usually don't know these people well enough to use them for anything. We just have this perception that may not be based on what is true.
Sometimes we read a quote from someone and judge them without knowing the context. Context and morality are connected, I think. In other words, if we know what the person was experiencing, we may have done the same although what they did seemed, perhaps, immoral.
Just rambling this Sunday morning.
Lloyd (August 28th, 2022)
Do you believe one can have a moral code that is similar to your own (The Golden Rule rules!) yet be non-religious, apolitical, and unsocial (neither social nor anti-social, a loner)?
Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
My thoughts are irrelevant.
The article is resonant.
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
Statement of fact, not of feeling. The article stands as it is. It does not require my commentary.
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
A 34 page exposition on one perspective? I've seen discussions elsewhere on innate morality which went in the other direction. The jury is out on what the answer is... there's no TRUTH only theories. Why don't you post your thoughts?
Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
As before, my thoughts on this subject are irrelevant. The articles provide food for the discussion. My thoughts would not.
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