Does this ring true?

[Chuck Naill]

Based on recent posts, YouTube has replaced the public library system.

While I can understand watching a couple of videos and f you need to change out a taillight in a 1995 Suburban, I do not think it’s a substitute or an objective source.

[Lloyd]

Based on recent posts, YouTube has replaced the public library system.

While I can understand watching a couple of videos and f you need to change out a taillight in a 1995 Suburban, I do not think it’s a substitute or an objective source.

Sadly, books are seldom unbiased, too.

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[dneal]

If you just watch cat videos on YouTube, it seems that Chuck would be correct.

If you watch an hour long discussion or interview with a credentialed expert, is it any different than watching a PBS special? Take the 80's Milton Friedman series Free to Choose. They were first broadcast on PBS. Are you saying, Chuck, they lose value if you watch them via an internet stream rather than radio waves?

At the end of the day, it's kind of a specious argument that confuses content with medium.

[Chuck Naill]

If you just watch cat videos on YouTube, it seems that Chuck would be correct.

If you watch an hour long discussion or interview with a credentialed expert, is it any different than watching a PBS special? Take the 80's Milton Friedman series Free to Choose. They were first broadcast on PBS. Are you saying, Chuck, they lose value if you watch them via an internet stream rather than radio waves?

At the end of the day, it's kind of a specious argument that confuses content with medium.

There is no confusion on my part, @dneal.

I am saying that watching or listening is not to be confused with peer reviewed information and the rigor of research, @dneal. The context of the video is young male mass killers. While there may be an issue with boys today, what you posted is not a definitive source.

I am also thinking of your past postings with videos from politics to COVID. Posting videos is the surge that has been brought upon us by FB.

[dneal]

Chuck, there are no definitive sources on humanity.

[Chuck Naill]

Chuck, there are no definitive sources on humanity.

And that means????? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

Can't believe you posted that!!

[dneal]

Chuck, there are no definitive sources on humanity.

And that means????? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

Can't believe you posted that!!

I'll ignore the "meaningful" part of this post, and respond to the underlying issue.

Agree with them or not, both Jordan Peterson and Warren Farrell, for example, are credentialed and credible, with decades of research and teaching. You appear to require a "definitive" source.

what you posted is not a definitive source.

The meaning of "definitive" in this context is:

Supplying or being a final settlement or decision; conclusive: synonym: decisive.

So I repeat, there are no definitive sources on humanity. We learn, and it evolves.

What does the peer-reviewed science say about the benefits or harms to a human on something as simple as consuming eggs? Is it definitive? Was it previously definitive?

One can listen to credible sources and form an opinion. One can listen to alternate credible sources, and form a different opinion. One perhaps should continue to listen to credible sources and continue to revise an opinion in light of new information.

One should also be skeptical, and learn to think critically on what credible sources say. Peterson seems to espouse Jung and Jungian archetypes. I see the utility of the latter, but discount the theory of the former.

Similarly, I listen to various credible sources on COVID. No one is a definitive source. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, Dr. Martin Kulldorff and Dr. Sunetra Gupta are leading epidemiologists from Stanford, Harvard and Oxford (respectively). Dr. Bhattacharya also earned a Ph.D. in economics.

One may credit or discount their opinions. They're certainly credible and credentialed. If those who disagree do it with science and rational argument, it's worthwhile to entertain those competing views. If they do it with "devastating public takedowns", they're simply admitting they have no science nor rational argument.

[Chuck Naill]

Look, a definitive source is verifiable and anyone having done research and produced that work well understands. .

And, context is essential.

Posting videos and photos is neither, but it’s what you do routinely. It is also how some of you mislead. Sometimes by discrediting someone with which you don’t agree or more often posting a video that says something you prefer. Doesn’t matter to me, but it doesn’t make you appear more informative.

[dneal]

Chuck, if we can't agree on the dictionary definition of "definitive", I don't think there's anything else to say.

I don't "mislead". I simply present evidence. Videos are one foundation for a discussion, as are articles, books, movies and all sorts of media. Whether or not the information is credible or persuasive depends on a person's own effort toward evaluation and investigation.

You're free to evaluate what I present, or not. It does seem curious that you often claim to not watch or read what I share, so I don't understanding why you're complaining about verifiability or context when you do not watch or read in the first place.

[Chuck Naill]

Posting videos is lazy.

[Chuck Naill]

We live in a time of misinformation. For members to post unverified or partial information is a disservice.

[dneal]

Chuck, you’re losing your composure it seems. Perhaps a break would help you regain it and collect your thoughts.

[Chuck Naill]

Come on man. Are you gong to resort to personal stuff: man up

[Chuck Naill]

Of course your are🤭🤭😂😂😂

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[Chuck Naill]

Drunk post

[Lloyd]

Drunk post

Reading most of the posts here can certainly lead one to want to get drunk.

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