The Boy Crisis

[Niner]

He may be a former Navy Lieutenant Commander, but why is he standing close enough to the other two guys in the photo that one grenade can take them all out? Okay, I also don't consider most officers "real" soldiers. For one thing, they don't get grubby enough and stinky enough.

Or is it only me who internalized that instruction, and does not like to be within grenade-fragment distance of anyone else, especially in a crowd? We don't talk about how jumpy I was at lunch on 9/11, nearly all the way across the country on a university campus. I wanted to just yell at the students to spread the hell out instead of clumping. That was when nobody really had any idea what was going on yet. I did yell at the TV footage from the Pentagon, where so many people were wandering, perhaps dazed but otherwise uninjured, as the MPs/SPs/Security yelled at them to get away from the building now because there was another plane coming in. Not that my yelling at the TV would do a damn bit of good.

I know next to nothing about the man. If everyone says he's a SEAL O veteran, okay, I believe it. If he was really on a team, he knows much about grenades. And stinking.

Considering what he's wearing in the photo, what everyone else is doing, and that he's at port arms with a two point sling draping about to his knees, I'd say the photo isn't from a training video.

You're right about grenades, though. Everyone in the video is so bunched up that they could all be casualties from one grenade. Sometimes that happens indoors. One must be careful about such things. There are even techniques taught about that.

I get it about conditioned response, too. Some veterans have some very engrained conditioned responses. It sometimes happens in other lines of work. The nature of a few of the military specialties makes the engraining more likely for veterans with those specialties than for the average veteran or civilian.

[Niner]

He’s a former Navy lieutenant commander.
So much for thanking you for serving.

Not in the ad, he isn't. He's a poseur, playing off his military background and the images of guns to pretend to be tough on liberals. He's a comic fraud in that ad.

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It's my understanding that "Poser" and "Walt" have very specific negative meanings in the military and veteran communities, especially regarding one not having the military experience or military qualifications one claims to have. I believe that the terms have no other meanings in those communities, except regarding posing as for a portrait or literally being named "Walt".

[Niner]

In case anyone wonders, I think the ad is very silly, to put it nicely.

[Chip]

What if he was urging armed followers to hunt down and kill Jews?

Still just silly?

[TSherbs]

What if he was urging armed followers to hunt down and kill Jews?

Still just silly?

Especially under the topic of this thread.

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[Chuck Naill]

In case anyone wonders, I think the ad is very silly, to put it nicely.

Consider his audience or intended base and it will appear as an appropriate strategy.

[Niner]

What if he was urging armed followers to hunt down and kill Jews?

Still just silly?

Especially under the topic of this thread.

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There's no reason to suspect that I would characterize Jew-killing as silly. I object to taking loyalty oaths, but in this instance I'll break a general rule of mine and do so. I very strongly condemn the killing Jews when the killing is based upon their being Jews. Otherwise, I object to their killing just as I object to the killing of those who are not Jews.

In the nicest terms I can think of, the ad is possibly merely silly. The candidate's ad might be frat boy prankishness. "F yeah! We'll smoke those MF's in the election! Lock 'n' load! Woo-hoo!" Think of the frat in question. Door-kicking, beer-drinking lead slingers.

[TSherbs]

What if he was urging armed followers to hunt down and kill Jews?

Still just silly?

Especially under the topic of this thread.

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There's no reason to suspect that I would characterize Jew-killing as silly. I object to taking loyalty oaths, but in this instance I'll break a general rule of mine and do so. I very strongly condemn the killing Jews when the killing is based upon their being Jews. Otherwise, I object to their killing just as I object to the killing of those who are not Jews.

In the nicest terms I can think of, the ad is possibly merely silly. The candidate's ad might be frat boy prankishness. "F yeah! We'll smoke those MF's in the election! Lock 'n' load! Woo-hoo!" Think of the frat in question. Door-kicking, beer-drinking lead slingers.

I don't disagree, except that these memes and ideas have more tragic consequences when actually carried out. Not "silly," but tragic and traumatizing.

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[dneal]

What if he was urging armed followers to hunt down and kill Jews?

Still just silly?

Especially under the topic of this thread.

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There's no reason to suspect that I would characterize Jew-killing as silly. I object to taking loyalty oaths, but in this instance I'll break a general rule of mine and do so. I very strongly condemn the killing Jews when the killing is based upon their being Jews. Otherwise, I object to their killing just as I object to the killing of those who are not Jews.

In the nicest terms I can think of, the ad is possibly merely silly. The candidate's ad might be frat boy prankishness. "F yeah! We'll smoke those MF's in the election! Lock 'n' load! Woo-hoo!" Think of the frat in question. Door-kicking, beer-drinking lead slingers.

I don't disagree, except that these memes and ideas have more tragic consequences when actually carried out. Not "silly," but tragic and traumatizing.

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Concur. See, you and I can agree on rational points.

[TSherbs]

What if he was urging armed followers to hunt down and kill Jews?

Still just silly?

Especially under the topic of this thread.

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There's no reason to suspect that I would characterize Jew-killing as silly. I object to taking loyalty oaths, but in this instance I'll break a general rule of mine and do so. I very strongly condemn the killing Jews when the killing is based upon their being Jews. Otherwise, I object to their killing just as I object to the killing of those who are not Jews.

In the nicest terms I can think of, the ad is possibly merely silly. The candidate's ad might be frat boy prankishness. "F yeah! We'll smoke those MF's in the election! Lock 'n' load! Woo-hoo!" Think of the frat in question. Door-kicking, beer-drinking lead slingers.

I don't disagree, except that these memes and ideas have more tragic consequences when actually carried out. Not "silly," but tragic and traumatizing.

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Concur. See, you and I can agree on rational points.

I don't give a fuck what you think of my posts

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[dneal]

What if he was urging armed followers to hunt down and kill Jews?

Still just silly?

Especially under the topic of this thread.

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There's no reason to suspect that I would characterize Jew-killing as silly. I object to taking loyalty oaths, but in this instance I'll break a general rule of mine and do so. I very strongly condemn the killing Jews when the killing is based upon their being Jews. Otherwise, I object to their killing just as I object to the killing of those who are not Jews.

In the nicest terms I can think of, the ad is possibly merely silly. The candidate's ad might be frat boy prankishness. "F yeah! We'll smoke those MF's in the election! Lock 'n' load! Woo-hoo!" Think of the frat in question. Door-kicking, beer-drinking lead slingers.

I don't disagree, except that these memes and ideas have more tragic consequences when actually carried out. Not "silly," but tragic and traumatizing.

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Concur. See, you and I can agree on rational points.

I don't give a fuck what you think of my posts

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Well, at least you got a "fuck" thrown in there.

There was nothing in my reply that earned that response. I agree with you and Niner, simply said so, and that it's evidence that we can agree.

I have no idea why a person as angry as you seem to be bothers with the internet. If anything, it tends to exacerbate the problem. You said you're 60 or so. Is this the best emotional control a person of your age can exhibit?

The world is turning into a bunch of "fuck you" Karens/Kens...

[Chip]

[TSherbs]

The world is turning into a bunch of "fuck you" Karens/Kens...

This is just me telling you: you're full of shit.



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[TSherbs]

haha

I'm good, not angry at all. Just determined.

Now, the hearings on TV have me worked up for sure!



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[Chuck Naill]

The world is turning into a bunch of "fuck you" Karens/Kens...

This is just me telling you: you're full of shit.



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You should have already known. Really, Ted???

[TSherbs]

The world is turning into a bunch of "fuck you" Karens/Kens...

This is just me telling you: you're full of shit.



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You should have already known. Really, Ted???

really

[Chuck Naill]

The world is turning into a bunch of "fuck you" Karens/Kens...

This is just me telling you: you're full of shit.



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You should have already known. Really, Ted???

really

Yes.

[TSherbs]

yes

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[TSherbs]

This kind of marketing and promotion doesn't help boys figure out, in a healthy way, what it means to be a "man":

AP article on increased gun sales and marketing tactics for "men":

https://apnews.com/article/gun-manuf...f0f128fbfc40be

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[Chip]

In an editorial, the Kansas City Star noted that Josh Hawley will soon publish a book entitled Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs, but said people watching the hearing “didn’t see much virile bravado as he ran from the mob”.

With examples such as Donald Trump, Matt Gaetz, and "Dash" Hawley, it's a wonder any boy with Republican parents can grow up sane.