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    Default Why do you come here?

    I have a sincere question to ask "the regulars" in this subforum. I'm not intending to irk anyone nor alter anyone's life.
    Life is short; our time is scarce. Aside from a very rare occasion, virtually zero opinions are altered, there's heaps of predictable redundancy, there's almost no kindness, and I seldom sense anyone is made happier from coming here. So, why do you spend so much time here? This is not a rhetorical question.

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    I'm limited in my options for conversation.

    This place was much nicer a few years ago. It's value has diminished considerably, but it is still one of the very few options available to me.

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_of_Clouds View Post
    I'm limited in my options for conversation.

    This place was much nicer a few years ago. It's value has diminished considerably, but it is still one of the very few options available to me.
    Available for what? There's more forums on the net than stars in the sky.

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Pen forums?

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    I was asking about this subforum. By the way, I'm very glad you've returned to your organic self.

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    What return? I just unplugged the Overlord AI.

    As for why here, as in this forum, that's because without dynamic input most of the rest of the website is kinda dead from the neck up.
    Last edited by Empty_of_Clouds; June 20th, 2022 at 02:46 AM.

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    If you don't like the rest of the forum, and this subforum isn't about pens, why come here? What are you getting out of it?

    I hope I'm not coming across as offensive. I'm really curious.

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Habit, probably. This subforum was considerably less fractious before... well, before.

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Maybe you should go first, Lloyd.

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    That may be a good idea for anyone starting a thread. To put up first and avoid any suspicion of a fishing expedition.

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Alternatively, one could give the poster the benefit of the doubt and not make assumptions. I'm reminded of the "it's not paranoia if everyone really is out to get you..." joke.

    Lloyd, I answered in the forum history thread I started. This used to be discussion of interesting topics, free from twitter-level rhetoric with relatively minor contentiousness; until an orange politician ran for office.

    Many of the other sections of the forum are interesting, in a show-and-tell fashion; but don't particularly prompt discussion.

    --edit--

    I noticed elsewhere a poster commented that they tend to avoid this section unless they were really riled up about something. That's probably the worst time to come here, and the reason for the "Also, do not post while high on ink fumes or after using ballpoints." comment in the description.
    Last edited by dneal; June 20th, 2022 at 08:07 AM.

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    It’s an honest inquiry, but I had a different thought. Lately some have seemed to suggest what’s going on is not good.

    People like to debate and argue. Sure sometimes it’s heated and such. I see this as just part of what it means to be human. It’s like pet owners who didn’t understand their puppy or cat would eat them if the conditions were right.

    I agree that Trump and also the pandemic has stoked the flames. I used to have an acquaintance who knew I was with a hospice agency and was constantly sending videos for why masks didn’t work and horse wormers were the best treat, that a You Tube nurse knew more than the CDC or Dr. Fauci. That person is no longer an acquaintance.

    For me, the Evangelical embrace of Donald Trump was a total disappointment. It caused me to re-examine myself and my beliefs. It has been interesting to read the posts justifications for their support.

    While I may come to appreciate other’s opinions, I am no obligated to change mine.

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Maybe you should go first, Lloyd.
    Oftentimes, I come here to hear (read) well educated thoughts from all sides of a topic to help see the bigger picture. I may state my opinion, but I'm open to my opinion being altered by convincing dialog. Yes, this has happened here on several occasions. That's why I dislike the character assaults and repetition... it leads to nothing.

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Habit, for me.

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Habit, for me.
    At times, I think smoking may be better for your health.

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Wrong. Come here or stay away. It’s a personal choice

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Wrong. Come here or stay away. It’s a personal choice
    Wrong? What's wrong? My question is why do you choose to come to this subforum. Please read the original post if you haven't.

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    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    You wrote that smoking would be better. Wrong!!

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    You wrote that smoking would be better. Wrong!!
    Chuck, he wasn't being literal.

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    Default Re: Why do you come here?

    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    You wrote that smoking would be better. Wrong!!
    Chuck, he wasn't being literal.
    I’m many things, but not a mind reader….lol!

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