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    Trump didn't declassify any of that shit. He's changed his story three times. He's a lying rat who doesn't care about rules and regulations and national security.

    The Executive does not have the unlimited power to do so whatever they want, even with classification and the handling of documents. The description of the powers and responsibilities of the presidency also stipulates that they must follow the law. Well, turns out that there are laws governing behaviors with documents. Awe shucks, the president isn't a king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Trump didn't declassify any of that shit. He's changed his story three times. He's a lying rat who doesn't care about rules and regulations and national security.

    The Executive does not have the unlimited power to do so whatever they want, even with classification and the handling of documents. The description of the powers and responsibilities of the presidency also stipulates that they must follow the law. Well, turns out that there are laws governing behaviors with documents. Awe shucks, the president isn't a king.
    You don't know what he did or didn't do any more than I did.

    Again - "I'm simply saying that a valid defense for him is that he declassified these documents while in office."

    You're right that "the executive does not have the unlimited power to do so whatever they want..."; right up until you get to the reality. First one is that for classified information, the president is the final authority.

    None of this shit is even new. Dems tried this angle before with the "he revealed classified info to the Russians" nonsense in 2017.

    This rabid Trump obsession is going to get him reelected.
    "A truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Trump didn't declassify any of that shit. He's changed his story three times. He's a lying rat who doesn't care about rules and regulations and national security.

    The Executive does not have the unlimited power to do so whatever they want, even with classification and the handling of documents. The description of the powers and responsibilities of the presidency also stipulates that they must follow the law. Well, turns out that there are laws governing behaviors with documents. Awe shucks, the president isn't a king.
    You don't know what he did or didn't do any more than I did.

    Again - "I'm simply saying that a valid defense for him is that he declassified these documents while in office."

    You're right that "the executive does not have the unlimited power to do so whatever they want..."; right up until you get to the reality. First one is that for classified information, the president is the final authority.

    None of this shit is even new. Dems tried this angle before with the "he revealed classified info to the Russians" nonsense in 2017.

    This rabid Trump obsession is going to get him reelected.
    If you had the authority, would you allow Trump to ignore laws and everything we know that he did, be excused? And, if so, would that be a better strategy if you didn't want him in office again or if you hope he would against occupy that office? Should Biden call off the FBI, National Archives, and the DOJ? Please don't dodge the question or answer something I didn't ask.

    I tend to think these institutions to operate as the miliary on non-partisan manners. That does not make them infallible, and I do not even expect perfection. However, vilifying public servants holds them to a standard most of us couldn't meet.

    Some information about a president's power to declassify and the process to do so.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/14/u...smid=url-share
    Last edited by Chuck Naill; August 15th, 2022 at 06:38 AM.

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