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    Default Kevin McCarthy"s Republican Plan

    I like the way she describes the Republican plan, "Then the document gets to the heart of its argument, recycling MAGA talking points in language that makes it very attractive. Who doesn’t want national safety, for example?"
    https://heathercoxrichardson.substac...m_source=email


    I'll ask our MAGA members to critique her appraisal and explain how the Republicans are going to be more effective than Biden.

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    Default Re: Kevin McCarthy"s Republican Plan

    They aren't going to be more "effective."

    But they will be more *MAGA*.

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    Default Re: Kevin McCarthy"s Republican Plan

    Better hats.

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    M: I came here for a good argument.
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    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
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    Default Re: Kevin McCarthy"s Republican Plan

    I wholeheartedly support commitment for this bunch— to a facility for the criminally insane.

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    So I finally got around to reading this piece.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heather Cox Richardson
    But the first topic—making the economy strong—is a paraphrase of what the Biden administration has been doing. The Republicans call for fighting inflation and lowering the cost of living, making America energy independent, bringing down gas prices, strengthening the supply chain, and ending the country’s dependence on China.

    This is quite literally the platform of the Democrats, but while the Republicans offer no actual proposals to contribute to these goals, Biden has taken concrete steps to address inflation by taking on the shipping monopolies that hiked transportation costs, for example, while Democrats in Congress have passed legislation capping the cost of certain prescription medications. Biden has released reserves to help combat high gas prices, which have now fallen close to their cost last March—a barrel of oil is now under $80—while expanding our nation’s pool of truck drivers and just last week averting a train strike that would have endangered supply chains. The incentives in the Inflation Reduction Act are designed specifically to make America energy independent while addressing climate change, and Biden’s extraordinary efforts to support economic development in the Indo-Pacific region, along with the CHIPS and Science Act, were explicitly designed to reduce U.S. dependence on China.
    If that were not ironic enough, she includes this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Heather Cox Richardson
    In short, the document feels like the doublespeak from George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984. To defend the indefensible, Orwell wrote in an essay titled “Politics and the English Language,” “political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness…. The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns, as it were, instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink.”
    "A truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged."

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    Default Re: Kevin McCarthy"s Republican Plan

    I note you don’t provide any rebuttal. That’s smart!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    I note you don’t provide any rebuttal. That’s smart!!
    Your recent trolls in a pathetic attempt for some attention aren't worth responding to, but I'll entertain this one because you (and HCR) are so absurd that it warrants pointing out. I note you don't provide any rebuttal to McCarthy's proposal. That's smart!!

    What's not smart is thinking the op-ed from Heather Cox Richardson is one, let alone using it as a substitute for your inability to make one.

    But let's start with determining what would be sufficient for you, Chuck. Something like your "rebuttal" of Victor Davis Hanson?

    Fine. Heather Cox Richardson is a known anti-Trumper. So she's not credible, right? Harrumph. I win.

    The truth is that reality rebuts the portions I quoted above. It's obvious, but neither you nor HCR can see that from the depths of your echo-chambers; which prompts me to also ask: "Rebuttal? To what end?

    Are either of you going to argue that a 40 year high inflation rate is the Democrat platform to improve the economy, which she claims the Republicans are trying to copy? But the economic argument is too easy for you blue-anon kooks to obfuscate, so let's use the other example since it is crystal clear.

    HCR argues above that McCarthy's document feels like Orwell. Really? There are countless examples, but I'll simply ask which party is trying to convince everyone that men can have menstrual periods (or babies, ferchrissakes!)? Which party labels conservative African Americans as "black white supremacists"?

    Tune back into your telescreen, until HCR issues another missive from the Ministry of Truth.
    "A truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged."

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    Default Re: Kevin McCarthy"s Republican Plan

    I didn’t read anything that would constitute a rebuttal. If I am a troll, so be it.

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    People should listening to Jan 6 broadcasts. We don’t live in parallel universes. When you hear primary sources say things, pay attention. Heather Cox Richardson provides a daily bibliography which leads to her as a reliable source.

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    However, there is a difference in trolling and liars, either willfully or ignorantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Heather Cox Richardson provides a daily bibliography which leads to her as a reliable source.
    And her bibliography for this piece?

    A HuffPost piece on the "commitment to America" plan.
    A 60 minutes tweet
    A PBS article
    A Ronald Klain (White House Chief of Staff) retweet of a Biden tweet.

    Pay attention, indeed.
    "A truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Heather Cox Richardson provides a daily bibliography which leads to her as a reliable source.
    And her bibliography for this piece?

    A HuffPost piece on the "commitment to America" plan.
    A 60 minutes tweet
    A PBS article
    A Ronald Klain (White House Chief of Staff) retweet of a Biden tweet.

    Pay attention, indeed.
    Do you disagree with the sources? If so, where are those sources in error. If so, provide the correct information using your preferred sources.

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    Default Re: Kevin McCarthy"s Republican Plan

    Well, this thread will get some updating, no doubt.

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    Defunded the IRS.

    From a recent op-Ed that made me reconsider the historical cry for cutting social insurance.

    “ Extreme opposition to social insurance and the safety net is, in that case, a natural fit for an authoritarian movement that tried to overturn the constitutional order and now wants to use the power it has to clean up as much of the scene of the crime as it can manage.”

    Jamell Bouie

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    Yes, the "law and order" party has an * after it:

    *just not tax-law and order

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    If you invite devils into your house, then you must feed them.

    —Afghan proverb

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    Thing is, do most Americans want what the Republicans are selling? I cannot imagine so. Do most Floridians want what DeSantis is doing?
    “He has shown you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” Micah 6:8

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    Elections don't always result in what "most people" want, and certainly the enactment of law is not always what "most people" want. Our system was not designed to solicit or honor what "most people" want. Our founders spoke or wrote expressly against this idea.

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    At the simplist of levels, if only 50% of those eligible to vote (in a campaign for office) actually do vote, and then that vote is, say, split 55-45, then someone is being elected by, say, 22% of the population of adult residents of a district (not all of whom are eligible voters). Hardly "most people."

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    Well, it has begun. The Biden inquiry is starting. This should take up or waste two years.

    Ironically the same are going after George Santos. They say he has disgraced the House of Representatives. Hey, hold on. What about Greene and Gaetz???
    “He has shown you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” Micah 6:8

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