The Trump 2024 thread...

[Chuck Naill]

I’ve always been surprised Trump got by disparaging McCain, even his aid hide the ship.

However, they did the same to Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson when they didn’t do what the mobs wanted.

[Chuck Naill]

If anyone endorses Trump you are in the company of a dictator.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-vl...eeb25941bd44fc

[TSherbs]

Speaking of the bard, the Mar A Lago paper thing is Much Ado About Nothing. Political theater, which is probably why it’s out of the news cycle. At the end of the day, the executive’s constitutional authority will be confirmed. Too many originalist justices on the SC. The Jan 6 hearings are much of the same, and will go down similarly to Adam Schiff’s claims during the Mueller stuff.

If they’re going to get him, it’ll be NY state (or city) and taxes. The fact that they haven’t yet leads me back to he’s either a criminal mastermind, or he stays between the legal lines.

Still feel the same way as expressed here (Nov. '22)?

[dneal]

Yes, that is still my running estimate. Why?

[dneal]

Trump did more damage to his campaign in his Megyn Kelly interview today, than the entire Democrat party did with 2 impeachments and however many indictments they’re up to now.

[dneal]

Based on the protests at Andrea Ocasio Cortez’s press conference in NYC, Trump is going to win in a landslide due to the border issue alone.

Well done Democrats, your policies are going to give everyone more Trump.

[Chuck Naill]

McCarthy is following @tsherbs habit of "f bombs". Maybe we should all "make a pledge" not to listen to Kevin.

Romney spent $5000 per day to protect his family. Thank you, Mr. Trump.

[dneal]

Chuck is in agreement with Matt Gaetz.

#whodathunkit

[Chuck Naill]

Nice!! LOL!

Trump wrote to-do lists for assistant on White House documents marked classified


https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-wrot...m_medium=email

[724Seney]

Nice!! LOL!

Trump wrote to-do lists for assistant on White House documents marked classified


https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-wrot...m_medium=email

Shocking!
Indict him!!

[Chuck Naill]

More unwokynesss

[Chip]

Pretty big target. . .

[Chuck Naill]

"Russian President Vladimir Putin needs former U.S. President Donald Trump to win the 2024 presidential election in order to salvage Russia's war in Ukraine, according to former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director John Brennan.

Russia's bloody invasion of Ukraine has dragged on for more than 18 months, defying the predictions of many experts who had initially suggested that Moscow's military would easily steamroll Kyiv shortly after the invasion began.

The extended conflict has damaged Putin's reputation and standing abroad and led to conflict at home, where the Russian leader's authority was in June rattled by a short-lived armed uprising by now-deceased Wagner Group founder Yevgeny Prigozhin."


https://www.newsweek.com/putin-needs...m_medium=email

[Chuck Naill]

If anyone weaponized the justice department, it was Trump. Any informed American already knows this, but it helps to have someone on the inside say so.


https://apnews.com/article/connectic...m_medium=email

[724Seney]

If anyone weaponized the justice department, it was Trump. Any informed American already knows this, but it helps to have someone on the inside say so.


https://apnews.com/article/connectic...m_medium=email

Well, if that is so, does that legitimize the Democrats' curremt, shameful efforts to carry it so much further?
Why do you criticize Trump's efforts and, in the same breath, condone Biden's?
#hypocrite

[Chuck Naill]

If anyone weaponized the justice department, it was Trump. Any informed American already knows this, but it helps to have someone on the inside say so.


https://apnews.com/article/connectic...m_medium=email

Well, if that is so, does that legitimize the Democrats' curremt, shameful efforts to carry it so much further?
Why do you criticize Trump's efforts and, in the same breath, condone Biden's?
#hypocrite

This is a thread about Trump, not Biden.

[724Seney]

If anyone weaponized the justice department, it was Trump. Any informed American already knows this, but it helps to have someone on the inside say so.


https://apnews.com/article/connectic...m_medium=email

Well, if that is so, does that legitimize the Democrats' curremt, shameful efforts to carry it so much further?
Why do you criticize Trump's efforts and, in the same breath, condone Biden's?
#hypocrite

This is a thread about Trump, not Biden.

Oh, I see....
This afternoon's activity is Dodge Ball! I guess I missed that on the day's schedule

What a lame response......even considering the source!!

[Chuck Naill]

If nothing else, you’re a quick source of entertainment. See you next week.

[Chip]

Trumpsky takes a hit where it hurts.

[B]Five key takeaways from Donald Trump’s financial fraud case ruling

New York judge ruled the ex-president had inflated the value of his assets and ordered a cancellation of business certificates
[/B]

Lauren Aratani
26 Sep 2023

A New York judge ruled on Tuesday that Donald Trump committed financial fraud by overstating the value of his assets to broker deals and obtain financing. The ruling is an acceleration of the case that the New York attorney general, Letitia James, has been building against Trump since 2019, that the former president fudged financial statements and inflated his net worth up to $2.2bn more than the actual figure. In a dramatic step just days before the trial is set to start, New York supreme court justice Arthur Engoron issued a partial ruling largely agreeing with James. He also ordered the cancellation of New York business certificates of all companies related to Trump and his two sons, Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump, making it difficult for Trump to continue running his real estate business in the state.

A trial is still set to start 2 October, in which Engoron will decide whether Trump, his allies and his companies will have to pay the $250m in monetary damages James is asking for. Trump’s lawyers say they will appeal the judge’s ruling.

Here are five takeaways from Tuesday’s ruling:

1. A big win for Letitia James
Though the trial is technically not over, the ruling is a huge win for the New York attorney general, who started her investigation into the Trump Organization in 2019. Over three years, her office interviewed 65 witnesses and reviewed “millions of pages of documents”. Trump was ultimately fined $110,000 for not complying with subpoenas for documents. When he eventually sat for a deposition, Trump told James that “the whole case is crazy” and that he created “the hottest brand in the world”. The former president tried to sue James after she filed her lawsuit in September 2022, but Trump ended up dropping his lawsuit earlier this year. Trump has denied wrongdoing and has called the case a “witch-hunt”.

2. A bench trial will still take place, but it will be shorter
Engoron initially scheduled the trial to go from 2 October to 22 December. But his judgement on Tuesday will dramatically shorten the trial since he already ruled in agreement with James’s main case against Trump: that he and his allies wrote up “false and misleading” financial statements and that they used these doctored financial statements to conduct business transactions. It is unclear how much shorter the trial will be after the ruling. It is a bench trial, meaning there will be no jury and the case will be decided solely by the judge.

3. Doing business in New York will be difficult for Trump, and his company could still face a $250m fine
Engoron ruled that the New York business certificates of the Trump Organization and other Trump subsidiaries listed in the suit will be cancelled. Certificates of companies owned by the named defendants, including Trump and his two sons, Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump, will also be cancelled. The impact of this is still unclear, though it does not bode well for the Trump Organization, which has multiple major real estate holdings in New York City. This means that his companies can no longer hold certificates that make them incorporated or set up as limited liability companies (LLCs) in the state. Engoron gave the Trumps 10 days to name three people who can oversee the dissolution of existing incorporated companies and LLCs in the Trumps’ name, including the Trump Organization.

James also asked Engoron to rule on monetary damages of up to $250m, which is how much the attorney general’s office believes the Trump Organization gained by issuing false and misleading financial statements. Engoron could also permanently bar Trump and his sons from serving as officers, which includes C-suite executive roles, of New York-based companies and place a five-year ban on any real estate acquisitions.

4. Trump is a real estate ‘genius’ only in a ‘fantasy world’
In pre-trial hearings before the ruling, Trump lawyer Christopher Kise told the judge that the former president is “an investment genius” and “probably one of the most successful real estate developers in the country”. “President Trump is a master at finding value where others see nothing,” Kise told Engoron.

In his ruling, it is clear that Engoron sees things differently. “In defendants’ world: rent-regulated apartments are worth the same as unregulated apartments; restricted land is worth the same as unrestricted land; restrictions can evaporate into thin air; a disclaimer by one party casting responsibility on another party exonerates the other party’s lies,” Engoron wrote. “This is a fantasy world, not a real world.”

5. The ruling is just another legal woe that is teed up for Trump
Trump has been actively campaigning for the 2024 presidential election and is leading the polls among his peers in the Republican primaries. But his campaign may be interrupted by more trials set to take place next year in New York, Washington DC and Florida. In January, Trump will be facing another trial around accusations of defamation from writer E Jean Carroll. Carroll is seeking damages of $10m. Trump has two trials scheduled for March: one around hush-money payments made to Stormy Daniels and a second in Washington around the January 6 Capitol insurrection. Then in May, Trump will have a trial in Florida for the withholding of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate. Another trial over election meddling in Georgia has yet to be scheduled.

As much of a setback as Tuesday’s ruling may be for the former president, this may only be the beginning.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e_iOSApp_Other

[dneal]

The main takeaway is that the judge thinks taxable value is the same as market value - a ludicrous notion that will likely fail on appeal, since the judge didn’t allow market estimates to be admitted.

I am free to apply any valuation to my property as collateral. A lender can agree with that valuation or not. It doesn’t make my claim fraudulent.

These cases are how you are going to get more Trump.