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    Default Pelikan 100N - nib question

    Good afternoon from Suffolk UK 😊
    I've bought the above mentioned pen and can't understand if the nib is correct for the period, post war, or not. Anybody can be of help, please?

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    Thank you

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    Default Re: Pelikan 100N - nib question

    Hi,

    That nib seems to be perfectly okay for a 100N. The exact period is difficult to estimate, could be pre-war (1937-39) and postwar (circa 1947-54). Likely not the war years itself due to the prohibition of gold export.

    Have you seen the nibs" section at the Pelikan-collectibles website: https://www.pelikan-collectibles.com...929/index.html
    Lots of additional info also here : https://tacitus124.wixsite.com/vinta...n-100n-ca-1937

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    Default Re: Pelikan 100N - nib question

    It looks identical to one of my post-war 100n's. Feed looks right too.

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    Default Re: Pelikan 100N - nib question

    All, thank you very much. I've had a look at the links you posted. Appelboom's I had seen, the other two no. Interesting pictures too. I was afraid of having bought a frankenpen and not a true 100N.
    Some people have told me that the feed can only have 3 fins and this scared me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoA64 View Post
    Some people have told me that the feed can only have 3 fins and this scared me.
    Because your question was on the nib I kind of overlooked the picture of the feed. The feed with 4 fins/lamellae is still correct for a 100N but is definitely postwar and likely early 1950s. The 4 lamellae feed was also present on the Pelikan 400 which was introduced in 1950. A picture of the complete pen may be helpful for further dating.

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    Default Re: Pelikan 100N - nib question

    here are two pictures of the full pen

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    I imagine it is a post war pen, given the gold nib and the 'modern' piston seal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoA64 View Post
    I imagine it is a post war pen, given the gold nib and the 'modern' piston seal.
    Indeed. Check also the timeline for the 100N on Pelikan Collectibles: a narrow black piston seal = 1942-53; section without ridge on top =1949-54; ink feed bush with two opposite notches = 1950-54;

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    Default Re: Pelikan 100N - nib question

    so it is a late series 100N with all the correct bits and pieces

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    I have a very similar 100N, the only differences is that mine has a single band and both band and clip are fluted. I took a look at the nib and feed on mone and they match yours. This is my oldest Pelikan and I enjoyed sharing it at the recent Pelikan Hub for those who only had modern Pels.

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    "The holder is a reproduction done by a friend of mine" is fascinating and sounds like the beginning of a great post.
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    Default Re: Pelikan 100N - nib question

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    I have a very similar 100N, the only differences is that mine has a single band and both band and clip are fluted. I took a look at the nib and feed on mone and they match yours. This is my oldest Pelikan and I enjoyed sharing it at the recent Pelikan Hub for those who only had modern Pels.
    Very nice! The fluted clip and cap band ad cachet to these pens.

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    Thank you folks, really lifted my heart with your answers. Much Apreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    "The holder is a reproduction done by a friend of mine" is fascinating and sounds like the beginning of a great post.
    Well, the story isn't too long, I'm afraid! Mark is a local pen friend with a lot of varied skills in his background, many of a technical nature. He has both jewelry and engineering prowess, and tools to match. Mark found a 3D template file online for these old Pelikan pen holder / statues, and made this for me via his 3D printer. He chose to paint it light blue. A very nice gift and I always think of him as it sits on my desk.

    BTW, he was the hubmaster at our recent Palikan hub. I didn't remember to take photos, but I will ask if he or someone else got some:Mark made the coolest little things, and integrates holder for the Edelstain ink bottles coupled with a little thing that holds a pipette with a place to catch drips. He had an "Ink Bar" with past bottles of Edelstein so people could take some home (in supplied vials) and each bottle had an eyedropper conveniently stored right with the bottle, and no mess. It was brilliant. Pics when I get them.
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    Default Re: Pelikan 100N - nib question

    This type of nib is common to both late pre-war and early post-war models.
    What is particular is the feed combination:
    -in 1953 the original three fin feed was abandoned in favor of using the new four fin feed type such as used in model 400. It has improved compensation chambers, which offer better ink flow control. Pens with such feeds also behave better in air travel.
    The collar was developed so the nib unit can easily and harmlessly be removed with the same tool as for Pelikan 400, 300 and 140. One thing is in common: the two opposite notches for tool insertion. This common collar installation/removal principle was developed after the initial friction-fit patent in early 400 was abandoned.
    This can date your pen to 1953 or 1954.
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    Default Re: Pelikan 100N - nib question

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    "The holder is a reproduction done by a friend of mine" is fascinating and sounds like the beginning of a great post.
    Well, the story isn't too long, I'm afraid! Mark is a local pen friend with a lot of varied skills in his background, many of a technical nature. He has both jewelry and engineering prowess, and tools to match. Mark found a 3D template file online for these old Pelikan pen holder / statues, and made this for me via his 3D printer. He chose to paint it light blue. A very nice gift and I always think of him as it sits on my desk.

    BTW, he was the hubmaster at our recent Palikan hub. I didn't remember to take photos, but I will ask if he or someone else got some:Mark made the coolest little things, and integrates holder for the Edelstain ink bottles coupled with a little thing that holds a pipette with a place to catch drips. He had an "Ink Bar" with past bottles of Edelstein so people could take some home (in supplied vials) and each bottle had an eyedropper conveniently stored right with the bottle, and no mess. It was brilliant. Pics when I get them.
    How fascinating. I'm looking forward to seeing the pics when you get them.
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