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    Default Re: On the hunt for my first Italian pen

    Nobody said Scribo! In my opinion the most artisan, local, and yet rock solid of all the current Italians.

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    Well, I think I'm one of the few who enjoy italian pens (and colors), and maybe I'm the only one who thinks that don't really need that much maintenance, compared to 30's+ Sheaffer's or even original P51's.

    I own two Montegrappas, Aqua Mestalla, and Nero Uno. I'm very pleased with them.
    I also own two Ancoras, one being a Toscana and the other one unknown. The nib is particularly great, as it has a weird touch I havent sensed in any otehr pen, almost "viscous".
    I had two Stipulas, one being Etruria and the other a Model-T. Both with titanium nibs. I'm still looking for a chance to get a gold nibbed one.
    I have many Deltas... Dolcevita Soirée, Dolcevita Federico, and Fusion 82 are the ones I enjoy more. Maybe the fusion nib is a scam, but I like it. The Dolcevita Soirée is specially good, with a nice and smooth nib with a very particular feedback.
    Omas is probably my favourite italian brand. Sadly, there's no future for them as ASC has no way to be compared to the original. The modern Arco celluloid Ogiva I own is one of the best pens I've tried, being paired with a 360 that I found in hand as a real surprise (a really comfortable pen with a magnificient behaviour over the paper). The Ogiva Guilloché could perfectly fit in that Black Pen Society, along with the classic Paragon/Gentleman/557, and with the Montegrappa Nerouno plus the Dolcevita Soirée.
    From Aurora, I had an Alpha (not really great), but have some Optimas (75th anniv, Mare, Primavera). Great for everyday use, but I do not like the Riserva Magica which is in truth more of a reminder of being out of ink than a reserve, and I still couldn't find a way for an easy cleaning when changing colours.
    I own a Pineider Egosphere with a 18k nib that works great but has not much personallity.
    Visconti probably is, along with Lalex, the brand I have owned less pens from. Only a Van Gogh Maxi, and 'm not really into metallic sections. This being said, the Rotring Visconti made is great, even though I've never used the "tintenkuli" point. Sooner or later I'll have to try the Homo Sapiens.
    Marlen has good and bad pens, but their gold nibbed I have are good (specially a Forme Petite that I use as pocket pen).
    My last italian pen is a Tibaldi Trasparente that is one of my favourites.

    As someone recommended you, I would go for a NOS pen from 90's onwards over an "in poduction" one, the same way that, in my opinion, a modern Sheaffer's cannot be compared to the pre-90's ones.

    I personally prefer italian over german pens, but it's true that I'm an F/EF pen user. Lamy and Pelikan are good, but MB, GvF-C, Diplomat, and Cleo Skribent all were unsatisfactory (and from Pelikan almost only the M600 size is good for me in "balance").
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralfstc View Post
    Nobody said Scribo! In my opinion the most artisan, local, and yet rock solid of all the current Italians.

    Ralf
    I'll second that. I have a Feel and love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirtoti View Post
    Well, I think I'm one of the few who enjoy italian pens (and colors), and maybe I'm the only one who thinks that don't really need that much maintenance, compared to 30's+ Sheaffer's or even original P51's.

    I own two Montegrappas, Aqua Mestalla, and Nero Uno. I'm very pleased with them.
    I also own two Ancoras, one being a Toscana and the other one unknown. The nib is particularly great, as it has a weird touch I havent sensed in any otehr pen, almost "viscous".
    I had two Stipulas, one being Etruria and the other a Model-T. Both with titanium nibs. I'm still looking for a chance to get a gold nibbed one.
    I have many Deltas... Dolcevita Soirée, Dolcevita Federico, and Fusion 82 are the ones I enjoy more. Maybe the fusion nib is a scam, but I like it. The Dolcevita Soirée is specially good, with a nice and smooth nib with a very particular feedback.
    Omas is probably my favourite italian brand. Sadly, there's no future for them as ASC has no way to be compared to the original. The modern Arco celluloid Ogiva I own is one of the best pens I've tried, being paired with a 360 that I found in hand as a real surprise (a really comfortable pen with a magnificient behaviour over the paper). The Ogiva Guilloché could perfectly fit in that Black Pen Society, along with the classic Paragon/Gentleman/557, and with the Montegrappa Nerouno plus the Dolcevita Soirée.
    From Aurora, I had an Alpha (not really great), but have some Optimas (75th anniv, Mare, Primavera). Great for everyday use, but I do not like the Riserva Magica which is in truth more of a reminder of being out of ink than a reserve, and I still couldn't find a way for an easy cleaning when changing colours.
    I own a Pineider Egosphere with a 18k nib that works great but has not much personallity.
    Visconti probably is, along with Lalex, the brand I have owned less pens from. Only a Van Gogh Maxi, and 'm not really into metallic sections. This being said, the Rotring Visconti made is great, even though I've never used the "tintenkuli" point. Sooner or later I'll have to try the Homo Sapiens.
    Marlen has good and bad pens, but their gold nibbed I have are good (specially a Forme Petite that I use as pocket pen).
    My last italian pen is a Tibaldi Trasparente that is one of my favourites.

    As someone recommended you, I would go for a NOS pen from 90's onwards over an "in poduction" one, the same way that, in my opinion, a modern Sheaffer's cannot be compared to the pre-90's ones.

    I personally prefer italian over german pens, but it's true that I'm an F/EF pen user. Lamy and Pelikan are good, but MB, GvF-C, Diplomat, and Cleo Skribent all were unsatisfactory (and from Pelikan almost only the M600 size is good for me in "balance").
    And I also have to agree with your statements. I have more Italian pens than any others, with Japanese pens a distant second ( not saying I don't love my German, American, English, independent brands...)

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    Nakaya is a wonderful pen, and you’ll have many hours of joy writing with it. If you ever feel in the mood for an Italian pen, the Visconti Homo Sapiens is a wonderful range of beautiful pens, and you’ll be very pleased with it. They are a bit pricey, but beauty does have its price. I pulled the trigger on a Santini Italia last year, and can say only good things about it.

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    Well, I might be back in the market for an Italian pen. I was recently able to check out a Visconti Homosapien and I liked the capping mechanism. Additional thought on Visconti such as quality, writing experience, and customer support.

    I sold off all but one of my collection. I kept my Sailor Kirikane. Wanting to have 2-3 top notch pens.

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    I haven't read through your thread again. There is an Aurora Optima (made in Turin) in the classifieds now, for about $100 less than often seen. https://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread...ia-and-LeBoeuf

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    I haven't read through your thread again. There is an Aurora Optima (made in Turin) in the classifieds now, for about $100 less than often seen. https://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread...ia-and-LeBoeuf
    Agreed. I have that exact pen and the price is very reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
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    I haven't read through your thread again. There is an Aurora Optima (made in Turin) in the classifieds now, for about $100 less than often seen. https://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread...ia-and-LeBoeuf
    Agreed. I have that exact pen and the price is very reasonable.
    Me too. That one even has the earlier Greek key band, which I like better than the AURORA band that's on mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
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    I haven't read through your thread again. There is an Aurora Optima (made in Turin) in the classifieds now, for about $100 less than often seen. https://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread...ia-and-LeBoeuf
    Agreed. I have that exact pen and the price is very reasonable.
    Me too. That one even has the earlier Greek key band, which I like better than the AURORA band that's on mine.
    I think this is the pen. What we love about their (better) celluloid is also that which makes getting a decent pic... tricky! Here's mine, grabbed from the case and the afternoon sun.



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    I have an as new Aurora Optima LE 365 with a F nib that I'm going to sell. I'm considering taking it to Dromgoole's with me if I go th Houston next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
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    I haven't read through your thread again. There is an Aurora Optima (made in Turin) in the classifieds now, for about $100 less than often seen. https://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread...ia-and-LeBoeuf
    Agreed. I have that exact pen and the price is very reasonable.
    Me too. That one even has the earlier Greek key band, which I like better than the AURORA band that's on mine.
    I think this is the pen. What we love about their (better) celluloid is also that which makes getting a decent pic... tricky! Here's mine, grabbed from the case and the afternoon sun.



    I also have this same pen. Wonderful writer and well made.

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    Default Re: On the hunt for my first Italian pen

    Doesn't anyone here like Montegrappa? I have a few of them and I love them. They're really beautiful pens! I've never had a problem with my Extra in 23 years and the nib is just beautiful and writes well every time. MHO.

    I also have an Aurora Optima - A beautiful pen, the nib is a little stiff though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vdiantonio View Post
    Doesn't anyone here like Montegrappa? I have a few of them and I love them. They're really beautiful pens! I've never had a problem with my Extra in 23 years and the nib is just beautiful and writes well every time....
    I don't think it's a question of not liking Montegrappa pens, but rather an opportunity to buy a quality Italian pen for a great price in the FPG classified. With a bit of searching, you can find a Montegrappa in the FPG classifieds: well-respected ArchiMark has a Montegrappa for sale, as does gclv_pen$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdwhitak View Post
    Well, I decided to get a Nakaya. Thanks to everyone for the heads up on ASC. Saved me from making an expensive mistake, potentially.
    In my opinion, this is an example of FPG at its best!
    Congratulations, also in my opinion, you made a great decision. Nakayas are terrific pens.
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    I'm back looking at Italian pens. Seriously considering a Visconti Homo Sapiens or an Aurora Internazionale. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdwhitak View Post
    I'm back looking at Italian pens. Seriously considering a Visconti Homo Sapiens or an Aurora Internazionale. Thoughts?

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    Default Re: On the hunt for my first Italian pen

    I just bought my first Italian fountain pen. A Monteverde Aldo Domani.





    Pen Chalet has them on sale for $29... Just nabbed a blue one with a stub nib. Lacquered solid brass. Couldn't help myself.
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    Take a look at Delta. They recently reopened after a stop of 5 years - same people, same materials, new equipments - and are making really beatiful pens - completely made in Italy.
    Moreover, they're also still finding NOS pieces, which they offer after a thorough overhaul, inspection and testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    I bought a Maiora Alpha Oroarancio 14K (medium) gargoyle miniatures for my retirement (direct from Italy at a discount) that I love. download poker android It's a fat pen, and not perfect. But very Italian in its heritage and look.
    Attractive but not well-crafted, high maintenance, yet beloved – much like all things Italian.
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