About all that institutional racism…

[Chuck Naill]

The one representing your multiple personalities? Yep. Are you ever going to explain it?

No need to explain. Why should I? Would it bother you if I identified both? Why are you fixated on sexual identity? That is concerning.

When someone is ignorant of Jim Crow, systemic racism, and gender identity, they say a lot about themselves.

[dneal]

You asked if I noticed the avatar. It’s ok candy/Chuck. You can be whoever you want. Just don’t start stealing old ladies’ luggage at the airport.

[Chuck Naill]

You asked if I noticed the avatar. It’s ok candy/Chuck. You can be whoever you want. Just don’t start stealing old ladies’ luggage at the airport.

I was expecting a better comeback. This is new for you for which I can appreciate.

[dneal]

You just don’t get the reference.

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[Chuck Naill]

"Yes, many, like me, were offended by the presence of Walker as the alternative, and were voting as much to defy Walker as to affirm Warnock.

But even there, I think we have to step back, take a breath, and soberly assess how historic his presence was. The power structure in Georgia was so shocked by what this Black-led coalition had done that they allowed Donald Trump to foist a thoroughly unqualified Black Republican on them, thinking that he would help them win back power.

Georgia Republicans thought they could fracture the Black vote. They couldn’t. It held strong and united."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/11/o...a-warnock.html

[dneal]

Kind of weird how that uber-racist Trump supported a black candidate - and got him through the primary.

[dneal]

Hmmm.

A Los Angeles Times (institutional media) reporter called Larry Elder the "black face of white supremacy"

The chair of the Jan 6 committee (political institution) called Justice Clarence Thomas an "Uncle Tom"

Harvard (academic institution) discriminates against Asian-Americans.

Perhaps there is something to this institutional racism. It's just that they're liberals doing it. Maybe that's why they're always shrieking about it. The question is if it's deflection, guilty conscience, or both.

[Chip]

Are you trying to convince yourself?

[dneal]

Convince myself of what? That LWL's are obsessed with race? Nah, the facts speak for themselves.

[Chuck Naill]

This thread is devolving. I am sure no one except me has read The Souls of Black Folk nor is anyone considering doing so. As long as whataboutthis links are posted, the historic facts of white supremacy and the subjugation and forced migration of millions of Africans will never be understood.

Systemic racism is not about Africans being superior or that some didn't do bad things. It is not that some AA don't choose self-destructive paths. The issue is that generations of relatives of former slaves did not have access to the same education and wealth accumulation as their white fellow citizens in general. Exceptions do exist of course, but a system is a general consideration.

I've posted this before, but I was smacked in the face with AA families unable to amass wealth when I saw three and four generations living together in a run-down neighborhood. It was not just one family, but the majority. This was the mid 1990's. The system kept AA in their place professionally and physically. Lands were taken by municipalities. Red lining occurred. Education was segregated with unequal resources. All of this has been going on in my lifetime and continue to exist in some locations, so this system of inequality continues, and it continues to result in the same societal results. Just think if George Bush's family had not been able to have benefitted from the accumulated wealth of their great grandparents. Some here may be expecting an inheritance someday. This is because of accumulate wealth. Some here will also be able to pass along wealth. Wealth accumulation is something a system allows. Donald Trump benefitted from his grandmother's ability to come from Germany and benefit as a white person.

White people unacquainted with these histories fail to realize that people with black and brown skin can feel inferior. White folks don't understand how generations of society praising or depicting light color skin can have an effect on dark skinned children.

If we were talking about something that hasn't occurred in hundreds of years, that one be one thing. What is true is these are things that are going on for some today.

How many here have black and brown friends? How many know someone who was alive and endured Jim Crow? If you have those relationships, ask them about their experiences and the experiences with their families and community with an open mind seeking to learn rather than judge.

Lastly, this is not a liberal concept. That Liberals do stupid things does not diminish the history one bit. All this whataboutthis does is put some off having to educate themselves about what really continues to happen for millions today.

[dneal]

Liberal history:

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[Chuck Naill]

A good example from today's remembrance of Gaddis Smith.

"He came from money, as did most of his classmates, and they studied under professors who considered white male privilege as natural as water, including his mentor, the diplomatic historian Samuel Flagg Bemis."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/07/u...mith-dead.html

[dneal]

I remember reading that the NYT literally supported Hitler. History's a bitch and all that...

Nov 21, 1922:
He is credibly credited with being actuated by lofty, unselfish patriotism. He probably does not know himself just what he wants to accomplish. The keynote of his propaganda in speaking and writing is violent anti-Semitism. His followers are nicknamed the "Hakenkreuzler." So violent are Hitler's fulminations against the Jews that a number of prominent Jewish citizens are reported to have sought safe asylums in the Bavarian highlands, easily reached by fast motor cars, whence they could hurry their women and children when forewarned of an anti-Semitic St. Bartholomew's night.

But several reliable, well-informed sources confirmed the idea that Hitler's anti-Semitism was not so genuine or violent as it sounded, and that he was merely using anti-Semitic propaganda as a bait to catch masses of followers and keep them aroused, enthusiastic, and in line for the time when his organization is perfected and sufficiently powerful to be employed effectively for political purposes.

A sophisticated politician credited Hitler with peculiar political cleverness for laying emphasis and over-emphasis on anti-Semitism, saying: "You can't expect the masses to understand or appreciate your finer real aims. You must feed the masses with cruder morsels and ideas like anti-Semitism. It would be politically all wrong to tell them the truth about where you really are leading them."

100 years ago, the Sulzberger family-owned publication was still quoting "reliable, well-informed sources".

[Chuck Naill]

As always, what about this?? LOL!

[dneal]

Yes Chuck, your "Gaddis Smith" post is a good example. I'm surprised you went to a literal Nazi-supporting publication to find it though.

Hmmm. NYT supports the guy responsible for the Holocaust. Maybe there is some institutional racism - but again from liberals.

[Chuck Naill]

More whataboutthis.

[dneal]

More “I got nothing” from candy.

[Chuck Naill]

Candy says hi!!

[Chip]

Is it your notion that running a well-known, but inarticulate and unqualified black candidate for an important office shows a lack of bias?

White supremacists love no one better than a black person who will take their orders and do their bidding (e.g. Clarence Thomas). As if that proves they aren't racists or that "institututional racism" doesn't exist. Quite a few of the overseers (wielding their whips) on the plantations were black slaves, who valued their privilege enough to oppress their fellow sufferers.

It's rather like the canard that a brief cold spell disproves the evidence for climate change.

[dneal]

So if you keep the black person down, you’re a racist. If you advance them, you’re a racist. Seems clear enough.

Did that old white guy who’s the current President pick Ketanji Brown Jackson so he would have a black woman on the court to take orders and do bidding?

Good to know you prefer your black candidates to be articulate. Do you also prefer that they’re clean? Cause your comment seems awfully racist. You are an old white guy though. Probably best to check your privilege and remain quiet.