About all that institutional racism…

[Chuck Naill]

Remember this?

"WASHINGTON — The country’s top military official apologized on Thursday for taking part in President Trump’s walk across Lafayette Square for a photo op after the authorities used tear gas and rubber bullets to clear the area of peaceful protesters.

“I should not have been there,” Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in a prerecorded video commencement address to National Defense University. “My presence in that moment and in that environment created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics.”

General Milley’s first public remarks since Mr. Trump’s photo op, in which federal authorities attacked peaceful protesters so that the president could hold up a Bible in front of St. John’s Church, are certain to anger the White House. Since the killing of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis, Mr. Trump has spent the days taking increasingly tougher stances against the growing movement for change across the country."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/u...m_medium=email

"WASHINGTON — A white National Guard commander called the standoff in Lafayette Square “the Alamo,” implying that the White House was under siege. Black members of the D.C. Guard objected to turning on their neighbors. Army leaders told pilots to “flood the box with everything we have” as two helicopters buzzed protesters in the streets.

The National Guard is now engaged in an investigation of the havoc a week ago Monday in downtown Washington, similar to after-the-fact examinations more common to battlefields in Iraq and Afghanistan. There will be questions, interviews and competing narratives. But on one point everyone is agreed: The first days of June, a calamitous period for the Trump presidency, have been a debacle for the National Guard."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/u...-protests.html

"On the same day that Mr. Floyd’s brother pleaded with Congress to tackle racism in the United States, Mr. Trump publicly slapped down the Pentagon for considering renaming Army bases named after Confederate officers who fought against the Union during the Civil War. The White House said the president would go so far as to refuse to sign the annual defense authorization bill if Congress tried to force his hand."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/u...ary-bases.html

Of course we all know there is no systemic racism, right? LOL!! Milley doesn't agree, " Milley went on to defend the Black Lives Matter protesters Trump was targeting, and to say that the military must address the systematic racism that has kept people of color from the top ranks. "

Carlsen reminded me of Seny and dneal's vernacular.

" Carlson began targeting the chairman for his efforts to fight racism in the ranks. “He’s not just a pig, he’s stupid,” the TV host said after Milley rebutted false accusations of pushing critical race theory. “The Pentagon is now the Yale faculty lounge, but with cruise missiles. That should concern you,” the Trinity College grad ranted to his viewers."

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/202...litary/385620/

[dneal]

Seney and dneal's vernacular doesn't include "Uncle Tom" or "houseboy".

The rest is just deflection because you won't (and can't) address Dr. Sowell's data he briefly covers in his interview with Peter Robinson.

[Chuck Naill]

Did you read the linked sources? This should provide the rational reader with enough information to see systemic racism is alive and well.

[Chip]

Typically, Sowell was once a vocal leftwinger, even a Marxist, but as he got older and richer, he drifted far to the right: to the Hoover Institution.

I doubt that data had much to do with his changing beliefs. Rather, there are a great many institutional rewards for black people who affirm that institutional racism (of which they are a key element) does not exist.

Rather like those funded by the fossil fuel interests who deny that climate change is taking place.

Although I disagree with his ideas, he has had a distinguished career as an economist. So— I'm curious why you keep referring to him as "an elderly black man."

[dneal]

Firstly, he has said many times why he abandoned Marxist ideas. You simply don’t accept it and provide a convenient alternative, which also includes calling him an “Uncle Tom”.

Ignoring information that he provides in favor of libelous and unsubstantiated rhetoric seems to be a consistent theme.

Elderly black man is an accurate description of an African American male in his 90s. Chuck suggested one should listen to the wisdom of the lived experience of someone with those qualities. It seems that it’s actually one more example of his hypocrisy though.

[dneal]

You old white liberals can add this guy to your slur list.

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[Chuck Naill]

One "eldery black man" ?

"Older African Americans are not a monolithic group with uniform opinions or experiences. African Americans born in 1964, for example, the year the Civil Rights Act passed, will turn 57 years old this year. In contrast, African Americans who are 75 or older were already 18 years old when the landmark legislation was signed into law. On the other hand, those who are 45 and older were born in 1976. For these Generation X Americans, Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights marches were historic events, rather than events that occurred during their lifetime. Each of these cohorts entered the world at a different point, but their experiences are linked and, unfortunately, in many ways very similar.
The 2020 Vital Voices Survey gathers information to gauge opinions on a range of topics as well as breaking and current issues. Among other issues, it explores concerns about racism and experience with discrimination among older African Americans and asks how these issues affect their daily lives. Much more research is needed to fully understand the impact, but this study can serve as a conversation starter.

The racial injustice on display in 2020 sparked protests around the world, but it only made visible what many in the African American community have experienced for many years. Four out of five (81%) African Americans 45-plus think that racism is a big problem, and half report that racial discrimination has negatively affected their well-being. Only about 5% of older Black Americans say racism is not a big problem. Interestingly, African American women 45-plus are more concerned than African American men about racism and racial discrimination (83% vs. 78%). This difference by gender does not indicate that Black men are not concerned about racism but perhaps that women may be more likely to report their concerns about racism, discrimination, and other well-being issues due to the intersectionality of gender and Black identity. "
https://www.aarp.org/research/topics...al-voices.html

[dneal]

That's a poll of what African Americans think, and it's "racism" as opposed to "institutional racism". They also think police are indiscriminately and disproportionately killing blacks, but that's not true (as the data demonstrates).

What percentage of MAGA voters think the 2020 election was stolen? Does that make it fact? What percentage of Americans believe in God? Does that make if fact?

But, as you note "much more research is needed to fully understand the impact", the question becomes: why is Dr. Sowell's research not addressed?

Answer: Because it dismantles the victim narrative.

Why does this seem to be a trend?

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[Chuck Naill]

The systemic racism of the state is being forced to comply.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/26/polit...m_medium=email

[dneal]

Aside from the fact that you’re demonstrating no institutional racism, if the supreme court’s decision is preventing it; why does your piece note this?

There are currently six Republicans and one Democratic member of Congress from Alabama, but the changing makeup of the districts is likely to mean the state will pick up a new Democratic member of Congress.

Again, this seems to be a red/blue issue hidden under the cover of a black/white narrative.

But that’s what Democrats do.

[Chip]

I'll sketch an example of how it works.

Rather than explicitly target black people, racist politicians and others stoke fears about crime. This results in harsher policies (Stop and Frisk, No Knock warrants, aggressive policing in minority areas, zero tolerance drug sentencing, etc.)

These policies result in disproportionate arrest, conviction, and imprisonment of black men, leaving their families to struggle with poverty.


All data regarding inmate race comes from the Federal Bureau of Prisons. The population percentages are from the US Census.

When (if) the men are released, as former felons they are often unable to find a decent job at a living wage (partly owing to low minimum wage laws and lax regulation of employers.) This renders them unable to support their families and more likely to have marital problems leading to abandonment, divorce, etc. This, in turn, increases recidivism. I'm sicj of hearing self-righteous crap about "one-parent families" and "welfare dependency" as if that was a choice, rather than something inflicted, whether consciously or unwittingly, on a racial minority.

If you don't see it, you aren't looking.

[724Seney]

Well, my progressive Marxist friend, as long as we are so kindly sketching things out for one another, please let me have a turn.
No one can deny the existence of racist politicians. I would not even begin to try to deny that this is a true characterization.

But, there are lots of statistics kept on crime and the offenders. This data includes race.
Do you believe the racist politicians are "rigging" that data? Like they are rigging the elections?

Chicago has recently adopted a cashless bail system. Robberies at gun point are up in Chicago this year by 45% Have a look at the statistics sometime.
Last night the likewise liberal, social engineering, jail be damned City of Philadelphia was terrorized by a huge number of brazen robberies. I've not seen the statistics but I've seen the many videos carried by the liberal, left wing press.

Large companies...... which contribute a huge percentage of the tax base for many big cities..... are getting out as fast as they can. As are many of the middle class. Soon, no taxpayers are going to remain. The cities are going to have to rely on the homeless camps & migrant shelters to pay for the city services, schools, etc.

Damn those racist politicians!

[Chuck Naill]

How is being I tune with racial disparities a Marxist conspiracy?

[724Seney]

How is being I tune with racial disparities a Marxist conspiracy?

Huh?
Please show me where I say it is.........?

#Misguided, as usual.

[dneal]

Well, my progressive Marxist friend, as long as we are so kindly sketching things out for one another, please let me have a turn.
No one can deny the existence of racist politicians. I would not even begin to try to deny that this is a true characterization.

But, there are lots of statistics kept on crime and the offenders. This data includes race.
Do you believe the racist politicians are "rigging" that data? Like they are rigging the elections?

Chicago has recently adopted a cashless bail system. Robberies at gun point are up in Chicago this year by 45% Have a look at the statistics sometime.
Last night the likewise liberal, social engineering, jail be damned City of Philadelphia was terrorized by a huge number of brazen robberies. I've not seen the statistics but I've seen the many videos carried by the liberal, left wing press.

Large companies...... which contribute a huge percentage of the tax base for many big cities..... are getting out as fast as they can. As are many of the middle class. Soon, no taxpayers are going to remain. The cities are going to have to rely on the homeless camps & migrant shelters to pay for the city services, schools, etc.

Damn those racist politicians!

I agree that causation for incarceration rates is asserted without evidence. However, if one is to cede the “racist policies” point for the sake of argument, then Biden’s 94 crime bill would be a good place to begin scrutinizing - further demonstrating that Democrats are the party of racism.

[Chip]

More on the topic:

Majority of Black Americans say they are depicted unfairly in news – study

Two-thirds say news about Black people is more negative than news about other racial and ethnic groups, Pew survey finds

Edwin Rios
27 Sep 2023

A majority of Black Americans say that their communities are unfairly depicted in news coverage, according to a sweeping new survey on Wednesday. Nearly two-thirds of respondents observed that their community received more negative coverage than other racial and ethnic groups, the Pew Research Center survey found. Roughly four in 10 surveyed said that the media not only stereotyped Black people but also felt that they saw racist and racially insensitive coverage sometimes or fairly often.

The center’s findings reflect the shortfalls of a so-called racial reckoning that swept through newsrooms across the United States in 2020 following the murder of George Floyd, when news outlets focused on hiring for roles centering diversity and inclusion and reporters and editors focused on covering communities traditionally underrepresented in news coverage. The latest survey indicates that the so-called reckoning inside newsrooms has struggled to reach the communities that they are meant to serve, including as the news business continues to experience layoffs, and failed to change the way communities feel about the coverage they receive.

Charles Whitaker, dean of the Northwestern University’s Medill school of journalism told the Associated Press he was unsurprised by the findings. He echoed the lack of nuance in coverage as a longstanding feeling among Black Americans who feel they are often portrayed as either victims of crimes or those who commit them. “We’ve known both anecdotally, and through my personal experience with the Black press, that Blacks have long been dissatisfied with their coverage,” he said.

The center surveyed nearly 5,000 adults over the winter to get their opinion on how Black Americans felt about how their communities are covered in the news media. The feelings of unfair coverage cut across political lines with Black Democrats and Republicans feeling very similar about how news coverage stereotyped Black communities. More than two-thirds of Black adults surveyed noted that educating journalists about the history and context surrounding the issues facing their communities played a vital role in helping to improve coverage. What’s more, a majority of Black Americans also noted that including more Black people as sources in news coverage would also heighten feelings of fairness in coverage for them. A majority also found that hiring more Black people in leadership positions helped to make news coverage about their communities more fair.

At least four in 10 people surveyed also found that hiring more Black reporters would make such coverage more fair. What’s more, they saw it was crucial that race and racial inequity coverage came from Black reporters, though just over half said it mattered as much for overall news coverage. Richard Prince, a columnist for the Journal-isms newsletter, told the Associated Press that the findings reinforced the idea that Black Americans, like other groups, “want to be portrayed as having the same concerns as everybody else. Still, he acknowledged that progress had been made in the upper echelons of newsrooms at a time when the industry experiences layoffs, adding: “We’re integrating an industry that’s shrinking.”

Few of those surveyed, no matter the age, say they were confident that their communities will be covered fairly over the course of their lifetimes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e_iOSApp_Other

[dneal]

More “some say” articles…

You would think that a guy with advanced degrees could make his own argument instead of posting propaganda.

[724Seney]

More “some say” articles…

You would think that a guy with advanced degrees could make his own argument instead of posting propaganda.

The only Marxist with profound original ideas was........ Karl Marx.
Chest beating wannabes like Chip are all lemmings.