Look how the IG red has turned almost black whereas to the blue is still blue black.
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Look how the IG red has turned almost black whereas to the blue is still blue black.
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catbert (March 6th, 2023), Lloyd (March 3rd, 2023), PithyProlix (March 4th, 2023), Scrawler (March 13th, 2023)
I had also made a black flow once. But it flows black and stays black, no special effects.
https://www.penexchange.de/forum_neu...t=1080#p151829
JulieParadise (March 3rd, 2023), Schaumburg_Swan (March 3rd, 2023), Yazeh (March 3rd, 2023)
Nice chroma! Bottle looks like, oh, what is is, De Atramentis?
Thanks for the review!
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Yazeh (March 3rd, 2023)
This is exactly what I find interesting about this ink; the fact that it turns almost black, but not completely. You have to look twice to see the hint of blue....
Welcome Thomas!
If Yazeeh allows, I could ad a couple of pictures of how I used this ink and what I specially like about it.
catbert (March 6th, 2023)
@christof. You and all members are always welcome to add any photos/ information. The more the merrier and the more complete the review
Yes, deAtramentis also uses such bottles, but they are made in Italy. https://www.foresta.net/detail.asp?codice=IN-0004-01
catbert (March 6th, 2023), dneal (March 8th, 2023), Sailor Kenshin (March 3rd, 2023), Yazeh (March 3rd, 2023)
Thank you Yazeh.
I will start wit a picture of the slightly diluted fresh ink. This is how the color looks:
And this is how the ink looks frehsly brought to the paper, still slightly diluted:
after only a few hours it gets much darker
And this shows a comparison to Pelikan 4001 blue-black:
and this as well, which means that Pelikan blue-black will stay blue-black, but Thomas ink is changing:
(the Michelangelo drawing has been done with Pelikan blue black)
This is exatly what I like most on Thomas ink. It's kind of ambiguous, not black and not blue. And of course I also like the properties regarding water resistance, which opens up certain possibilities when drawing.
catbert (March 3rd, 2023), Chrissy (March 6th, 2023), JulieParadise (March 3rd, 2023), PithyProlix (March 4th, 2023), Sailor Kenshin (March 3rd, 2023), Schaumburg_Swan (March 3rd, 2023), Yazeh (March 3rd, 2023)
catbert (March 6th, 2023), christof (March 3rd, 2023), JulieParadise (March 4th, 2023), Lloyd (March 3rd, 2023), PithyProlix (March 4th, 2023), Schaumburg_Swan (March 4th, 2023), Yazeh (March 4th, 2023)
I would like to add something about the durability of the lettering of such inks, because I read a lot of speculation. Compared to the nanopigment inks, because they are champions league. Iron gall does not have its enormous lightfastness and is not resistant to diluted hydrochloric acid and bleach. For standard applications they have good resistance if they contain sufficient IG. And that's the problem with "colored" IG inks, because IG is not colored.
Here is a light test over about 1 year with 1 nano, 2 IG ("Nachtblau" is the blue flowing) and 1 royal blue. https://www.penexchange.de/forum_neu...e.php?id=39134
catbert (March 6th, 2023), dneal (March 6th, 2023), Lloyd (March 6th, 2023), PithyProlix (March 7th, 2023), Schaumburg_Swan (March 6th, 2023), Yazeh (March 6th, 2023)
Schaumburg_Swan aka SchaumburgSwan
https://www.flickr.com/photos/136145166@N02/albums
Yazeh (March 6th, 2023)
Last edited by Thom.; March 7th, 2023 at 07:16 AM.
Schaumburg_Swan (March 7th, 2023), Yazeh (March 7th, 2023)
@Thom, can I post your light test, on my Fountain Pen Network, review? That's very encouraging.
That was my friend "Heinrich", I'll ask him. Because ESSRI was mentioned as a comparison to Nachtblau, ESSRI has a small problem with a lot of air in the original container and IG-precipitations over time. Transferring the ink to several smaller ink bottles keeps the air out and delays precipitation somewhat.
Lloyd (March 7th, 2023)
Thanks!Yep that's what I did. When I was researching the history of IG/ and making IG inks. There was a suggestion that the best way to protect IG ink is to blow into the bottle before closing the lid:
Blow into bottle and quickly replace cap to replace oxygen with carbon dioxide. Seal container when not in use. Filter and transfer to smaller container.
https://irongallink.org/how-to-make-...ing-chart.html
catbert (March 7th, 2023), Lloyd (March 7th, 2023), PithyProlix (March 7th, 2023)
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Schaumburg_Swan aka SchaumburgSwan
https://www.flickr.com/photos/136145166@N02/albums
Yazeh (March 8th, 2023)
@Yazeh, you see, I know them all. The other type of precipitation in such strong IG inks is acid catalyzed tannic crosslinking. I don't think this can be prevented in the long run.
Yazeh (March 8th, 2023)
That's not going to work:
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Last edited by FredRydr; March 7th, 2023 at 07:03 PM.
JulieParadise (March 8th, 2023), Lloyd (March 7th, 2023)
With Nachtblau you don't have to do anything. At ESSRI, the smaller ink bottles make sense because ESSRI has a small air problem:
The blowing I think is an excuse given by the really hard IG fans because they don't blow they inhale.
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