De Atramentis Document Turquoise

[Yazeh]

This is the review of Document Turquoise, which will be soon followed by its Artist sibling. If you were to choose one for writing purposes, get a sample of this one.

I am not enamoured by this ink. I don't know if it's the colour, or it's behaviour, or simply it's lack of character. Or maybe I'm inky saturated
It is decent document ink, too wet with wet/wide nib combos. With fude (bent Chinese /Japanese nibs) it wrote like flip-flops on ice

Ink won't work with cheap/absorbent paper and it will feather and fly away.

Colour is slightly lighter than Artist Turquoise, and less wet.
Document and Artist inks can be mixed, so they are perfect for Artists or those who like to mix their own inks.
Document inks are slightly “more” archival than Artist inks, in my correspondence with De Atramentis.

Chroma:

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Writing Samples

Scan for Midori is too green.
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Comparison:
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Nothing did budge the ink under running water:
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I wasn't really inspired to do a sketch. This is done on a Canson watercolour paper. By wetting the paper with a brush adding ink, and removing extra colour with a paper towel....
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· Pens used: Pilot Kakuno (Ef /Stub) Lamy Safari (Ef/F/M/B) / Jinaho 450 with an Ultraflex nib/ and fude nib
· What I liked: Writing with a broad nib only. I was taking notes and had my pen uncapped for 5 minutes, no dry outs. Very fast dry time on coated paper, especially with Fine nibs. It’s good for dry pens.
· What I did not like: Very wet, no character.
· Shading: none
· Ghosting: This ink is best for coated paper, with Ef – Broad nibs and dry pens. Don't use it with ebonite feed.
· Bleed through: Same as above.
· Flow Rate: Very wet
· Lubrication: Excellent
· Nib Dry-out: None.
· Start-up: None.
· Saturation: Eh
· Shading Potential: None
· Sheen: None.
· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: With a primed nib, you can have some feathers, even on coated papers.
· Nib Creep / “Crud”: No.
· Staining (pen): It didn't stain my convertor. But I used it only for a week.
· Clogging: No
· Cleaning: It was fairly straightforward, like "normal" inks. However, long term I don't know.
· Water resistance: Excellent
· Availability: 45 ml bottles.

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

[LizEF]

Thanks, Yazeh! It's greener than I would have expected. I had heard that this doesn't behave so well - particularly with bleed-through. Very nice to see such a thorough review, and the comparison to the Artist version is a very nice touch. Sail away little ink, sail away...

[blopplop]

Thanks for the review. I own this ink and have used it enough to know that it does bleed through and feather pretty bad. Wish it didn't because I'm always on the prowl for good perm/water resistant inks.


Dave

[Yazeh]

Thanks, Yazeh! It's greener than I would have expected. I had heard that this doesn't behave so well - particularly with bleed-through. Very nice to see such a thorough review, and the comparison to the Artist version is a very nice touch. Sail away little ink, sail away...

I took a couple of photos. It's a blue green.
Paper is Midori!

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[Yazeh]

Thanks for the review. I own this ink and have used it enough to know that it does bleed through and feather pretty bad. Wish it didn't because I'm always on the prowl for good perm/water resistant inks.


Dave

Yeah. It's a pity. The Artist turquoise is even worse. I've never seen anything like that. And I use a lot of Noodler's inks

[Thom.]

Yeah. It's a pity. The Artist turquoise is even worse. I've never seen anything like that. ...

The deAtramentis have a bit of a problem on unfavorable paper, we already had that here in the light test (4 years). https://www.penexchange.de/forum_neu...t=2145#p274880 But it shows the enormous light resistance of such nano-pigment inks (with very few exceptions). For document authenticity according to the standard, there is also erasure resistance, ethanol resistance, hydrochloric acid resistance, ammonium hydroxide resistance, bleaching resistance and water resistance. And the nanos can do that.

[TSherbs]

Thanks for the review. Totally dislike the look of this ink. Pass from me.

[Jaguarish]

Had a good laugh at "flip flops on ice" ! 😆

[Yazeh]

Yeah. It's a pity. The Artist turquoise is even worse. I've never seen anything like that. ...

The deAtramentis have a bit of a problem on unfavorable paper, we already had that here in the light test (4 years). https://www.penexchange.de/forum_neu...t=2145#p274880 But it shows the enormous light resistance of such nano-pigment inks (with very few exceptions). For document authenticity according to the standard, there is also erasure resistance, ethanol resistance, hydrochloric acid resistance, ammonium hydroxide resistance, bleaching resistance and water resistance. And the nanos can do that.

Thank you so much for sharing that. You're a wealth of information!

[Yazeh]

Thanks for the review. Totally dislike the look of this ink. Pass from me.

Most welcome! Same here for me

[Yazeh]

Had a good laugh at "flip flops on ice" ! 😆

We need laughter more than ever, don't we, especially in ink reviews

[Thom.]

Thank you so much for sharing that. You're a wealth of information!

They had the dokumentus checked according to the standard for document-proof ballpoint pens (there are none for document-proof fountain pen inks). You can transfer this to comparable inks.