Gender and the law

[dneal]

Back on topic. Let’s look at the example of Sage Blair, and the complicity of some educators in harming children.

Sage Blair.

Her school "transitioned" her to a male without letting her grandparents/adoptive parents know and encouraged her to use the boys bathroom despite her getting rape threats.

She had a psychotic breakdown, ran away, got kidnapped, and got raped and sex trafficked by multiple men.

She was eventually rescued, but the public defender claimed that the parents weren't "sufficiently affirming" of her Sage's gender identity due to her grandfather/adoptive father calling her "she" when overcome with emotion, so the parents weren't allowed to have her back.

She got put in a boys juvenile facility since she was a "boy" and while there she was sexually assaulted again.

She escaped the facility and was once again kidnapped, raped, starved, and tortured.

Eventually she was rescued and reunited with her parents, but she has to go to tremendous amounts of therapy for the rest of her life.

The grandparents/adoptive parents are now suing the Virginia school board where it originally started, the school counselors, and the public defender.

It is absolutely insane that Sage had to suffer so much all because the school didn't say anything to her parents in the beginning.

[724Seney]

Back on topic. Let’s look at the example of Sage Blair, and the complicity of some educators in harming children.

Sage Blair.

Her school "transitioned" her to a male without letting her grandparents/adoptive parents know and encouraged her to use the boys bathroom despite her getting rape threats.

She had a psychotic breakdown, ran away, got kidnapped, and got raped and sex trafficked by multiple men.

She was eventually rescued, but the public defender claimed that the parents weren't "sufficiently affirming" of her Sage's gender identity due to her grandfather/adoptive father calling her "she" when overcome with emotion, so the parents weren't allowed to have her back.

She got put in a boys juvenile facility since she was a "boy" and while there she was sexually assaulted again.

She escaped the facility and was once again kidnapped, raped, starved, and tortured.

Eventually she was rescued and reunited with her parents, but she has to go to tremendous amounts of therapy for the rest of her life.

The grandparents/adoptive parents are now suing the Virginia school board where it originally started, the school counselors, and the public defender.

It is absolutely insane that Sage had to suffer so much all because the school didn't say anything to her parents in the beginning.

The foundation of all this is the ridiculous notion that "the School" knows better what's good for a child than does his or her parents. Parents are nothing but a bothersome nuisance and should butt out of important stuff like this.......
Don't believe it? You need go no further than to review the innumerable posts made in this and related threads by an ex-teacher who also happens to be a FPG member.
This absurd, arrogant attitude is pervasive among the profession but, thank heavens, not ubiquitous / unanimous. Bless those strong souls within the profession who are trying to shine a light on this insanity. They are true patriots.

[Chip]

Another scary anecdote with no link or source.

Pull the other one, mate.

[724Seney]

Another scary anecdote with no link or source.

Pull the other one, mate.

No pony parties on this lovely Sunday afternoon?
Rather than post this poop why not head out to the back 40 and see how the sheep are doing. I'm sure you can find at least one horny critter who will be glad to see you.

[dneal]

You forgot what data is, and now you forgot how to do an internet search?

You'll find it on many of those scary alt-right neo-nazi white-supremacist RWW sites.

You'll think that's a reason to dismiss a real event, but will never question why your sources aren't informing you.

[Chip]

I'm not going to verify your incessant BS.

[724Seney]

I'm not going to verify your incessant BS.

No need.
You have already more than verified your own.

[dneal]

I'm not going to verify your incessant BS.

Translation: "I googled it, and found out it's real. Damn it!"

[Chuck Naill]

I read about Sage Blair. I have to think the child lived with someone who saw her leave each morning to attend school. They saw what she was wearing and her hair style. While it is challenging to always know what is going on with your child at this age, it remains the parent's or guardian's responsibility.

Since Blair had a history of mental disease, the parents or guardians should have had an ongoing relationship with the school, initiated by them. There would be documentation that therapy was being provided for the child.

While this is a horrible tale, it is a tale of irresponsible actions on the part of those whose should have been protecting her. They are blaming the school, but what role did they contribute?

[kazoolaw]

Another scary anecdote with no link or source.

Pull the other one, mate.

Yeah, don’t be this guy

[kazoolaw]

Oops

https://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post403711

[Chip]

More right-wing hysterical hate propaganda. (See final paragraph.)

Governor Youngkin Pardons Father Who Was Arrested in School Board Meeting

In a Loudoun County, Va., case that became a national flashpoint over transgender rights, Scott Smith rose to accuse a boy of assaulting his daughter, and a fight ensued.

Stephanie Saul
Sept. 11, 2023

In a case that became a national flashpoint over transgender rights in schools, Gov. Glenn Youngkin of Virginia has pardoned a father who was arrested during a contentious school board meeting in Loudoun County. Mr. Youngkin’s office released a statement Sunday announcing the pardon of Scott Smith, who was charged after he rose to announce during a 2021 school board meeting that his daughter had been assaulted in a high school restroom by a boy “wearing a skirt.” The Loudoun County School Board was debating the subject of restroom use by transgender students at the meeting.

Mr. Smith was arrested after he clenched his fist and leaned toward a woman during an argument. Deputies dragged him to the ground as he continued struggling and arguing with them, an encounter seen in video that flew across the internet. Mr. Smith was convicted of two misdemeanors in connection with the episode, but one of the charges — obstruction of justice — was later thrown out, and Mr. Smith was scheduled for trial on Sept. 25 in an appeal of the remaining charge — disorderly conduct.

The pardon comes at a time when the governor, a Republican who was elected in 2021 partly by seizing upon parental rights as an issue, is pushing to win Republican control in the State Senate in the November election. The 40-delegate body’s current Democratic majority has blocked some Republican initiatives, including a proposal to track diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts in the state’s public universities. “In Virginia, parents matter, and my resolve to empower parents is unwavering,” Mr. Youngkin said in a statement announcing the pardon of Mr. Smith, whom Mr. Youngkin characterized as having been “wrongfully prosecuted.”

Buta Biberaj, the commonwealth attorney for Loudoun County, whose office initially handled Mr. Smith’s prosecution, accused Mr. Youngkin of political motivations, pointing out that early voting in the November election begins in two weeks. In a statement, she called the governor’s decision an “unprecedented and inappropriate intervention into an active legal case. This is something where, unfortunately, I think the governor was using this for political gaming,” Ms. Biberaj said in an interview on Monday. She noted that Mr. Youngkin had been aware of the case since before taking office: “Now, two weeks before early voting, you’re going to announce this?”

Ms. Biberaj, a Democrat, is running for re-election in November.

A lawyer for Mr. Smith, Bill Stanley, who is also a Republican state senator in Virginia, defended the governor’s decision in a posting on social media, and said that Ms. Biberaj was the one pulling a political stunt. Mr. Stanley could not be reached for comment. The Smith case led to the dismissal of the Loudoun County superintendent of schools, Scott Ziegler, who faces trial on misdemeanor charges of making false public statements concerning the episode in the bathroom. He has pleaded not guilty.

Testimony in the case showed that Mr. Smith’s daughter had a prior consensual relationship with the boy Mr. Smith accused of assault, that the boy was not transgender, and that the boy was transferred to another school where he was accused in yet another case.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/u...e=articleShare

[dneal]

Victim blaming from someone who apparently has never been a father, citing an piece from a publication that claimed Hitler was a nice young boy from Austria who didn't really hate Jews.

[Chuck Naill]

Being a father is not the issue. Have you no decency?

[dneal]

When it comes to abusing children, I have no tolerance nor mercy.

As a father, that is.

[Chuck Naill]

That doesn’t make you a hero. It’s how you treat your neighbor’s child.

[dneal]

I didn't claim hero status. Are you done with the nonsense trolling yet?

[Chip]

Maybe she can ask Jesus to put it on his credit card.

Kim Davis must pay $100,000 to US same-sex couple she denied marriage license

Jury awards damages to David Ermold and David Moore, who sued former Kentucky county clerk over 2015 incident

Gloria Oladipo
14 Sep 2023

A former Kentucky county clerk is being ordered to pay $100,000 to a local couple who sued the clerk after she refused to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. Kim Davis, the former clerk of Rowan county in eastern Kentucky, rose to national prominence for refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses in 2015, arguing that such actions violated her religious beliefs that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Davis was briefly jailed on contempt of court charges for refusing to issue the licenses. She was later released when her staff issued the marriage certificates, but without her name on the form. Last year, a federal judge ruled that Davis violated the constitutional rights of the two gay couples who sued her. US district judge David Bunning said that Davis “cannot use her own constitutional rights as a shield to violate the constitutional rights of others while performing her duties as an elected official”.

This week, in a trial to determine damages Davis must pay, a federal jury ordered Davis to pay $50,000 each to David Ermold and David Moore, according to lawyers of Davis, the Associated Press reported. The second couple who sued, James Yates and Will Smith, were awarded no damages.

During this week’s trial, Davis argued that she was protected from litigation due to qualified immunity, a doctrine that protects government officials from lawsuits accusing them of violating someone’s constitutional rights. Davis’s defense team said in a Wednesday press release that they “look forward to appealing this decision and taking this case to the US supreme court”. But the US supreme court already declined to hear an appeal from Davis’s lawyers on the matter in 2020, AP reported.

Chris Hartman, executive director of the Kentucky-based LGBTQ+ organization Fairness campaign, applauded Wednesday’s ruling in an interview with the Guardian. “Discriminatory actions have consequences,” said Hartman. “When you are a representative of the government, you must follow the law and treat everyone with dignity and respect, including LGBTQ Americans,” Hartman added.

Hartman called the current treatment of LGBTQ+ communities in Kentucky “abysmal”, adding that trans Kentuckians face an onslaught of discrimination via anti-trans laws. In June, Kentucky’s Republican-leaning legislature passed sweeping anti-LGBTQ+ laws, banning gender-affirming care for those under 18 and prohibiting trans children from using the bathroom that best suits their gender identity at school. “We, in our commonwealth, have been swept up in the national fervor against trans kids. Our community is hurting, scared, and is uncertain of its future,” Hartman said. “Sadly, our states are making refugees of their own residents, forcing LGBTQ people and their families, particularly trans kids, to cross state lines [for] refuge and safety,” he said.

Hartman noted that local communities are passing fairness ordinances that ban LGBTQ+ discrimination, a hopeful sign.“ [It highlights] the disconnect between local communities, constituencies and state representatives who do not represent the value of Kentuckians,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e_iOSApp_Other

[dneal]

At least she didn't assume their gender.

[724Seney]

News From Maine
(Home of TSherbs who has assured us (ex) teachers like him have all this under control.)


https://www.outkick.com/transgender-...-stark-chessa/

CROSS COUNTRY RUNNER SUDDENLY AMONG THE BEST IN MAINE AFTER SWITCHING TO FEMALE DIVISION
by MARK HARRIS
September 29, 2023, 11:41 September 29, 2023, 2:00 pm
Videos by OutKick
The 22nd edition of the Maine Cross Country Festival of Champions will take place over the weekend and one competitor, Soren Stark-Chessa, is creating quite the buzz. Well, at least among those who recognize the existence of biology and are brave enough to discuss it.

According to Shawn McBreiairty of YourNews, Stark-Chessa, a biological male, ran in the boy’s division as a freshman a year ago for Coast Waldorf School in Freeport, ME. In the boy’s division, he ranked 172nd in the 5k. As a sophomore, now running in the girl’s division, Stark-Chessa is all of a sudden ranked fourth and dominating competition.


Stark-Chessa’s best finish in a cross country meet as a freshman was 14th, twice. But has finished runner-up and first in two races competing against high school girls. Stark-Chessa’s win came in Freeport with a time of 18:55, which was 1:42 faster than the second-place finisher.

READ: KARINE JEAN-PIERRE GOES FULL WORD SALAD ON TOPIC OF TRANSGENDER ATHLETES IN WOMEN’S SPORTS: ‘COMPLICATED ISSUE’


“It is not fair to a female who has trained hard. Males are biologically faster than females, with testosterone. They need to run under their biological gender,” an anonymous female cross country runner in Maine told YourNews.

Transgender Cross Country Racer Upsets Mom
A Maine high school track mom spoke out as well.

“Men are simply larger, faster, and stronger than their female counterparts. To compare, the top-ranked female high school runner in all of New England would only be ranked #47th among high school boys in Maine,” she explained. “This boy, Soren Stark-Chessa, ranks #172 among Maine boys, but #4 among Maine girls.”

As for this weekend’s Festival of Champions race, it is reportedly tabbed as Maine’s biggest cross country race. Stark-Chessa will be running among the girls. Stark-Chessa finished 51st in the boy’s division a year ago, but is guaranteed to improve mightily on that finish as a biological male competing against biological females this time around.

Ironically, the ‘Gender Equity and Inclusion Policy’ in the Maine Principals Association Handbook states athletes “should have the opportunity to participate in MPA activities in a manner that is consistent with their gender identity, unless such participation would result in an unfair athletic advantage.”

Stark-Chessa, a male, going from a no-name runner to one of the top-ranked cross country athletes in the girl’s division quite literally defines “an unfair athletic advantage,” but nobody is willing to admit it.


Not so much, I guess, Teddy..........