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    Default Parker Cisele clicker BP

    Help me to be Parker lazy. What is the model name or number of the Parker ballpoint Cisele with a button mechanism (not the more common twist)?

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    Default Re: Parker Cisele clicker BP

    No expert at ball points but my initial guess would be the 75

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    Default Re: Parker Cisele clicker BP

    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    No expert at ball points but my initial guess would be the 75
    The same as the fountain pen? I suspect Parker assigned different model numbers to its 30 years of variations of the 75 range since 1964.

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    Default Re: Parker Cisele clicker BP

    I have always simply called them the 75 ballpoint, perhaps because many of the ballpoints were sold in sets with the 75 fountain pen, there was also a 75 pencil.
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    Default Re: Parker Cisele clicker BP

    I’d call it a Classic or an International Classic

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    Default Re: Parker Cisele clicker BP

    Hi,

    The model name of this button-activated Ciselé ballpoint indeed changed a few times as can be seen on period advertisements. It was an 'International Classic', then a '75' and finally a 'Classic'. It was part of the 75 range only between 1971 and 1976.

    It was introduced in 1967 as part of the "Parker "International Classic" line of ballpoints, which were available in Ciselé sterling silver, brushed steel (aka Flighter) or gold plated.
    In 1971, the Ciselé silver version of this button-activated ballpoint was renamed to "Parker 75 Classic" and it was indeed sold in sets together with the Ciselé silver 75 fountain pen. I think that it thus replaced the Parker 75 Ciselé ballpoint with cap-activated mechanism, which had been on the market since at least 1967.
    In 1976, Parker re-introduced the 75 Ciselé ballpoint with cap-activated mechanism and the button-activated Ciselé ballpoint became part again of the "Classic" line of ballpoint pens.

    EDIT:
    I just went through the ads again and I see that the cap-activated 75 Ciselé ballpoint still appears in 1974 advertisements (check for instance ebay item 404305747162), so possibly it did not disappear with the appearance of the button-activated 75 Ciselé ballpoint in 1971 (check ebay item 256106629407 and compare to a largely identical ad from 1970 that did not yet mention model number 75: 354912398292). I even found a 1974 ad that shows both ballpoint models side by side (ebay item 385381095520) so it seems that the cap-activated as well as the button-activated Ciselé ballpoints were both part of the Parker 75 line of pens in the first half of the 1970s.
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    If I could click on the "Thanks" button repeatedly, I would've. Thank you, jos!

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    Default Re: Parker Cisele clicker BP

    Thank you Jos!

    I have seen both variants of the ballpoint pens (button and cap activated) sold along with Parker 180, as part of accompanying set...very confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    If I could click on the "Thanks" button repeatedly, I would've. Thank you, jos!
    You are welcome Fred. It is always nice to dig into the + 50 years old advertisements and still be able to find new (at least new for me) info on models and timelines.

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    Default Re: Parker Cisele clicker BP

    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    I have always simply called them the 75 ballpoint, perhaps because many of the ballpoints were sold in sets with the 75 fountain pen, there was also a 75 pencil.
    When I was living in the UK in the '70s, my English father-in-law bought for me the "75" ballpoint and mechanical pencil set in black and gold (for an occasion I cannot recall). I still have them. I wasn't a collector then, so the fancy box with royal warrant was pitched into the bin.

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