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    Default Re: Octopus Write and Draw Ink - Green Squirrel

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    I read that and wouldn't consider using any of them in my fountain pens. For me they would be treated as dip pen inks only.
    This one could easily be used in Safari, if you want to ever try it. It's very easy to clean. I wouldn't put it in a piston filler though
    That depends on how easy to clean is easy to clean. I still have the remains of a line of Pilot Blue Black on my red Safari. So far I've wiped it with a piece of kitchen towel while wet; wiped it with a wet cotton bud; soaked it in pen flush; run it through a cycle in my USB with cleaning solution; tried cleaning it off with white polish; tried cleaning it off with Renaissance Wax. It is still there. I'm going to have to think deeper but don't need to have to remove "hard to remove inks" from my "cheap Safaris." Especially as I just bought this one brand new to replace my old one that had a feed that had become very loose to change nibs on and I can't just buy a feed here in the UK.

    I can try out almost any ink colour in a standard dye based ink that isn't waterproof or lightproof. I just prefer to do that for the simple life. I know you only use waterproof inks whereas I only use standard dye based inks.
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    Default Re: Octopus Write and Draw Ink - Green Squirrel

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
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    I read that and wouldn't consider using any of them in my fountain pens. For me they would be treated as dip pen inks only.
    This one could easily be used in Safari, if you want to ever try it. It's very easy to clean. I wouldn't put it in a piston filler though
    That depends on how easy to clean is easy to clean. I still have the remains of a line of Pilot Blue Black on my red Safari. So far I've wiped it with a piece of kitchen towel while wet; wiped it with a wet cotton bud; soaked it in pen flush; run it through a cycle in my USB with cleaning solution; tried cleaning it off with white polish; tried cleaning it off with Renaissance Wax. It is still there. I'm going to have to think deeper but don't need to have to remove "hard to remove inks" from my "cheap Safaris." Especially as I just bought this one brand new to replace my old one that had a feed that had become very loose to change nibs on and I can't just buy a feed here in the UK.

    I can try out almost any ink colour in a standard dye based ink that isn't waterproof or lightproof. I just prefer to do that for the simple life. I know you only use waterproof inks whereas I only use standard dye based inks.
    Sorry to hear that Chrissy, That must be frustrating with a brand new pen. I had the same problem with several ink stain on my red safari. I used a Nano towels to remove the stains. Normally any microfibre with long threads should work.
    As for cleaning, I used a nice big fat syringe to remove any dye, let it soak for 2 hours, wrapped it in a tissue paper and voilà. Sometimes, I just let them soak overnight (as a safe measure).
    As for dye based or pigment inks, yes I understand your point. Though next time, try Herbin Rose Cyclamen or Skrip Red. Those two are my worst inks

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    Default Re: Octopus Write and Draw Ink - Green Squirrel

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    I read that and wouldn't consider using any of them in my fountain pens. For me they would be treated as dip pen inks only.
    This one could easily be used in Safari, if you want to ever try it. It's very easy to clean. I wouldn't put it in a piston filler though
    That depends on how easy to clean is easy to clean. I still have the remains of a line of Pilot Blue Black on my red Safari. So far I've wiped it with a piece of kitchen towel while wet; wiped it with a wet cotton bud; soaked it in pen flush; run it through a cycle in my USB with cleaning solution; tried cleaning it off with white polish; tried cleaning it off with Renaissance Wax. It is still there. I'm going to have to think deeper but don't need to have to remove "hard to remove inks" from my "cheap Safaris." Especially as I just bought this one brand new to replace my old one that had a feed that had become very loose to change nibs on and I can't just buy a feed here in the UK.

    I can try out almost any ink colour in a standard dye based ink that isn't waterproof or lightproof. I just prefer to do that for the simple life. I know you only use waterproof inks whereas I only use standard dye based inks.
    Sorry to hear that Chrissy, That must be frustrating with a brand new pen. I had the same problem with several ink stain on my red safari. I used a Nano towels to remove the stains. Normally any microfibre with long threads should work.
    As for cleaning, I used a nice big fat syringe to remove any dye, let it soak for 2 hours, wrapped it in a tissue paper and voilà. Sometimes, I just let them soak overnight (as a safe measure).
    As for dye based or pigment inks, yes I understand your point. Though next time, try Herbin Rose Cyclamen or Skrip Red. Those two are my worst inks
    I've used Herbin Rose Cyclamen and Skrip Red without too much of a problem. Maybe I used them in my old red Safari LOL I'm not sure what a Nano towel would be here, but we have Microfibre towels. I think I'm past a micro towel with my red Safari. I'm going to have to move onto some strong ink remover next.
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    Default Re: Octopus Write and Draw Ink - Green Squirrel

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    I still have the remains of a line of Pilot Blue Black on my red Safari.
    Wow. That's strange. I've used this in multiple pens and never had a hint of staining. I wonder if it's a reaction with the plastic the red Safari is made of. If ammonia (diluted, obviously) won't remove it, then I'd be at a loss. Sorry to hear about it - that would certainly put me off an ink (assuming I hadn't expected it to stain).

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    Default Re: Octopus Write and Draw Ink - Green Squirrel

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Their safety message is a bit two-sided
    Are there any restrictions on the use in the fountain pen?

    Yes and No! You can use the Write & Draw Inks in your fountain pen without hesitation, as long as you take care not to let the ink dry up in the fountain pen. We therefore recommend that you clean your writing instrument thoroughly immediately after use. To be on the safe side, we also advise against using particularly expensive fountain pens for these reasons.
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    Isn't this the classic disclaimer for all pigment/IG inks? We all know that you have to a have well seal with pigment inks, otherwise you're doomed. And frankly I have had "normal" inks which were more difficult to clean than pigment inks.
    Surprisingly, this ink was one of the easiest inks to clean, one flush and it was gone. That's a first for a pigment ink
    Neither Sailor nor Platinum have any disclaimer on their websites and they sell some fairly pricy pens. (Of course, neither does Noodlers have a disclaimer for their Bulletproof inks)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Their safety message is a bit two-sided
    Are there any restrictions on the use in the fountain pen?

    Yes and No! You can use the Write & Draw Inks in your fountain pen without hesitation, as long as you take care not to let the ink dry up in the fountain pen. We therefore recommend that you clean your writing instrument thoroughly immediately after use. To be on the safe side, we also advise against using particularly expensive fountain pens for these reasons.
    As decisive as the scarecrow


    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    Isn't this the classic disclaimer for all pigment/IG inks? We all know that you have to a have well seal with pigment inks, otherwise you're doomed. And frankly I have had "normal" inks which were more difficult to clean than pigment inks.
    Surprisingly, this ink was one of the easiest inks to clean, one flush and it was gone. That's a first for a pigment ink
    Neither Sailor nor Platinum have any disclaimer on their websites and they sell some fairly pricy pens. (Of course, neither does Noodlers have a disclaimer for their Bulletproof inks)

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    Actually the new Platinum ink (Chou kuro) has a disclaimer. You have to use distilled water. Also IG inks come with some standard disclaimers etc. And I believe Polar inks can be mixed together but cannot be mixed with other inks etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Their safety message is a bit two-sided
    Are there any restrictions on the use in the fountain pen?

    Yes and No! You can use the Write & Draw Inks in your fountain pen without hesitation, as long as you take care not to let the ink dry up in the fountain pen. We therefore recommend that you clean your writing instrument thoroughly immediately after use. To be on the safe side, we also advise against using particularly expensive fountain pens for these reasons.
    As decisive as the scarecrow


    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    Isn't this the classic disclaimer for all pigment/IG inks? We all know that you have to a have well seal with pigment inks, otherwise you're doomed. And frankly I have had "normal" inks which were more difficult to clean than pigment inks.
    Surprisingly, this ink was one of the easiest inks to clean, one flush and it was gone. That's a first for a pigment ink
    Neither Sailor nor Platinum have any disclaimer on their websites and they sell some fairly pricy pens. (Of course, neither does Noodlers have a disclaimer for their Bulletproof inks)

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    Actually the new Platinum ink (Chou kuro) has a disclaimer. You have to use distilled water. Also IG inks come with some standard disclaimers etc. And I believe Polar inks can be mixed together but cannot be mixed with other inks etc.
    That's different to me. pH mixing risks can be avoided by not mixing and have been known for centuries. Octopus inks recommends to avoid nicer pens entirely.

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    Last edited by Lloyd; August 24th, 2023 at 02:24 PM.
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    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
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    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Octopus Write and Draw Ink - Green Squirrel

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    ... Actually the new Platinum ink (Chou kuro) has a disclaimer. You have to use distilled water. Also IG inks come with some standard disclaimers etc. ...
    Well, wash me, but don't get me wet. The advantage of waterproof fountain pen inks is their water resistance. And its disadvantage too.
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    I still have the remains of a line of Pilot Blue Black on my red Safari.
    Wow. That's strange. I've used this in multiple pens and never had a hint of staining. I wonder if it's a reaction with the plastic the red Safari is made of. If ammonia (diluted, obviously) won't remove it, then I'd be at a loss. Sorry to hear about it - that would certainly put me off an ink (assuming I hadn't expected it to stain).
    I always use Pilot Blue cartridges in my Capless but have never used them in any other pen. Maybe the blue black has reacted with the red plastic. I thought I had managed to get it all off but somehow this dark line still remains. The cleaning solution in my USB contains some ammonia but it didn't shift it. No, I hadn't expected it to stain. I won't be using it in my red Safari again that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    I still have the remains of a line of Pilot Blue Black on my red Safari.
    Wow. That's strange. I've used this in multiple pens and never had a hint of staining. I wonder if it's a reaction with the plastic the red Safari is made of. If ammonia (diluted, obviously) won't remove it, then I'd be at a loss. Sorry to hear about it - that would certainly put me off an ink (assuming I hadn't expected it to stain).
    I always use Pilot Blue cartridges in my Capless but have never used them in any other pen. Maybe the blue black has reacted with the red plastic. I thought I had managed to get it all off but somehow this dark line still remains. The cleaning solution in my USB contains some ammonia but it didn't shift it. No, I hadn't expected it to stain. I won't be using it in my red Safari again that's for sure.
    As I recall, Pilot Blue isn't uv resistant. So, this stain may fade over time if left in the light. If you're daring, you can try a mild bleach solution

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    A: No it isn't.
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    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    As I recall, Pilot Blue isn't uv resistant. So, this stain may fade over time if left in the light. If you're daring, you can try a mild bleach solution

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    Thanks for the info about UV resistance as it was something I wasn't aware of. However following General Beringers philosophy from WarGames (1983) I will also try the mild bleach.
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    Hello,

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    ... I'm going to have to think deeper.....
    Apogollys for buttin' in, but you could try, 'Senset Skin Cleansing Foam' - available from Amazon (but cheaper from chemist direct).
    It's amazing at removing ink from the hands. Spray a little on and watch it lift the ink off your skin. That said - spray a little on wooden surface to remove stubborn stains. Or metal, plastic. Mousemat (as I found out purely through accident) Not wishing to sound like the 'our sats' who spam the site, but just to say you could do worse than try it, Chrissy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thom. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    ... Actually the new Platinum ink (Chou kuro) has a disclaimer. You have to use distilled water. Also IG inks come with some standard disclaimers etc. ...
    Well, wash me, but don't get me wet. The advantage of waterproof fountain pen inks is their water resistance. And its disadvantage too.
    No worries here. Nothing that I write ever needs to be lightproof or waterproof so that disadvantage can easily be bypassed. LOL
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    Hello,

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    ... I'm going to have to think deeper.....
    Apogollys for buttin' in, but you could try, 'Senset Skin Cleansing Foam' - available from Amazon (but cheaper from chemist direct).
    It's amazing at removing ink from the hands. Spray a little on and watch it lift the ink off your skin. That said - spray a little on wooden surface to remove stubborn stains. Or metal, plastic. Mousemat (as I found out purely through accident) Not wishing to sound like the 'our sats' who spam the site, but just to say you could do worse than try it, Chrissy.

    Carpio
    Thanks but I checked out all of the ingredients and didn't fancy putting it on my pen.
    Last edited by Chrissy; August 25th, 2023 at 08:25 AM.
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    Ohhh, I dunno, I kinda like the chroma.

    And the color! Soft sage green. I love the drawings, of course. Disgruntled kitteh, triumphant squirrel, indignant mouse. Thanks, Yazeh, for another of your fascinating ink-scursions.
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    Ohhh, I dunno, I kinda like the chroma.

    And the color! Soft sage green. I love the drawings, of course. Disgruntled kitteh, triumphant squirrel, indignant mouse. Thanks, Yazeh, for another of your fascinating ink-scursions.
    Thank you, Sailor. Much appreciated 🙏

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
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    Their safety message is a bit two-sided
    Are there any restrictions on the use in the fountain pen?

    Yes and No! You can use the Write & Draw Inks in your fountain pen without hesitation, as long as you take care not to let the ink dry up in the fountain pen. We therefore recommend that you clean your writing instrument thoroughly immediately after use. To be on the safe side, we also advise against using particularly expensive fountain pens for these reasons.
    As decisive as the scarecrow


    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    Isn't this the classic disclaimer for all pigment/IG inks? We all know that you have to a have well seal with pigment inks, otherwise you're doomed. And frankly I have had "normal" inks which were more difficult to clean than pigment inks.
    Surprisingly, this ink was one of the easiest inks to clean, one flush and it was gone. That's a first for a pigment ink
    Neither Sailor nor Platinum have any disclaimer on their websites and they sell some fairly pricy pens. (Of course, neither does Noodlers have a disclaimer for their Bulletproof inks)

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    Actually the new Platinum ink (Chou kuro) has a disclaimer. You have to use distilled water. Also IG inks come with some standard disclaimers etc. And I believe Polar inks can be mixed together but cannot be mixed with other inks etc.
    That's different to me. pH mixing risks can be avoided by not mixing and have been known for centuries. Octopus inks recommends to avoid nicer pens entirely.

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    I forgot you came here a good argument. You win

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    Their safety message is a bit two-sided
    Are there any restrictions on the use in the fountain pen?

    Yes and No! You can use the Write & Draw Inks in your fountain pen without hesitation, as long as you take care not to let the ink dry up in the fountain pen. We therefore recommend that you clean your writing instrument thoroughly immediately after use. To be on the safe side, we also advise against using particularly expensive fountain pens for these reasons.
    As decisive as the scarecrow


    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    Isn't this the classic disclaimer for all pigment/IG inks? We all know that you have to a have well seal with pigment inks, otherwise you're doomed. And frankly I have had "normal" inks which were more difficult to clean than pigment inks.
    Surprisingly, this ink was one of the easiest inks to clean, one flush and it was gone. That's a first for a pigment ink
    Neither Sailor nor Platinum have any disclaimer on their websites and they sell some fairly pricy pens. (Of course, neither does Noodlers have a disclaimer for their Bulletproof inks)

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    Actually the new Platinum ink (Chou kuro) has a disclaimer. You have to use distilled water. Also IG inks come with some standard disclaimers etc. And I believe Polar inks can be mixed together but cannot be mixed with other inks etc.
    That's different to me. pH mixing risks can be avoided by not mixing and have been known for centuries. Octopus inks recommends to avoid nicer pens entirely.

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    I forgot you came here a good argument. You win
    I did not!

    Typos courtesy of Samsung Auto-Incorrect™
    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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