De Atramenits Document Sepia

[Yazeh]

This is an excellent sepia ink by De Atramentis. I loved using it over and over again. Very well behaved, easier to clean than blue inks

Let's start with the chroma:
Chroma - DeA - Document Sepia.jpg
Writing Samples:
Rhodia - DeA- Doc Sepia.jpgMidori - DeA- Doc Sepia.jpegTR - DeA Document Sepia.jpeg
Photo:
photo document sepia.jpg
Comparison:
Comparison - Whaleman's Sepia .jpg
Water test: Left side was dabbed with water. The smudge beside the kitty was there before the watertest
Watertest-DeA- Doc Sepia.jpeg
And per usual an art work, part of the Inktober yearly challenge, prompt was Camel:
Paper is a Talens square notebook.


· Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, Stub/ Kaweco (EF/F/M/B/Stub 1.1), Osmiroid Copperplate nib
· What I liked: Really well-behaved ink. Very well-behaved ink. Excellent for sketching! And easy to clean!
· What I did not like: Nothing
· What some might not like: It’s a nano pigment ink
· Shading: Yes, with wider nibs.
· Ghosting: No.
· Bleed through: No.
· Flow Rate: Lovely.
· Lubrication: Nice, thought best with European pens.
· Nib Dry-out: No.
· Start-up: No.
· Saturation: Nice.
· Shading Potential: Only with flex nibs
· Sheen: No.
· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: No.
· Nib Creep / “Crud”: Didn’t notice.
· Staining (pen): No.
· Clogging: No.
· Cleaning: Very easy
· Water resistance: Excellent.
· Availability: 45 ml bottles.

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

[LizEF]

Fabulous, Yazeh! Thank you for this review. It's so unusual to find a permanent ink that behaves so well. Onto my list it has gone. Wonderful kitties, but as you know, that kitty & mouse on a camel drawing is my favorite! Something fabulous about it. You did sheik kitty perfectly.

[Yazeh]

Fabulous, Yazeh! Thank you for this review. It's so unusual to find a permanent ink that behaves so well. Onto my list it has gone. Wonderful kitties, but as you know, that kitty & mouse on a camel drawing is my favorite! Something fabulous about it. You did sheik kitty perfectly.

Thanks Liz. I was so surprised that a few flushes and the pen was neat as pin. It doesn't happen often but when it does it's a pleasure

[mizgeorge]

Fabulous!

Great ink, better review, stellar artwork.

Thank you so much

[Sailor Kenshin]

Thanks, Yazeh! This is what I think of when I hear the word 'sepia:' a deep brown ink. I like its blacker elements, and I really really love the camel who has the honor of being boarded by Sheiks Mousie and Kitteh. Hope they reach an oasis soon! The shadow in this sketch is wonderful.

Sounds like this would be an excellent sketching ink, if I could get past the 'pigmented' thing. Oh, well, that's what cheeep pens are for.

[Yazeh]

Fabulous!

Great ink, better review, stellar artwork.

Thank you so much

Thank you for your support and watching

[Yazeh]

Thanks, Yazeh! This is what I think of when I hear the word 'sepia:' a deep brown ink. I like its blacker elements, and I really really love the camel who has the honor of being boarded by Sheiks Mousie and Kitteh. Hope they reach an oasis soon! The shadow in this sketch is wonderful.

Thank you. I enjoyed doing that.

Sounds like this would ne an excellent sketching ink, if I could get past the 'pigmented' thing. Oh, well, that's what cheeep pens are for.

It's a great sketching ink and I love cheap pens

[penwash]

I have a sample vial of deAtramentis Document Brown. And it doesn't look like this one at all, instead, it's mostly grey. Maybe I got a bad batch.... hmmm.

This "Sepia" is more of what I expected.
Imagine if this ink is water-resistant enough that it won't be "activated" by light washes, it'd be a very good candidate for me to use in my vintage-themed sketches.

And... nice camel sketch.

[Yazeh]

I have a sample vial of deAtramentis Document Brown. And it doesn't look like this one at all, instead, it's mostly grey. Maybe I got a bad batch.... hmmm.

This "Sepia" is more of what I expected.
Imagine if this ink is water-resistant enough that it won't be "activated" by light washes, it'd be a very good candidate for me to use in my vintage-themed sketches.

And... nice camel sketch.

Thanks!

De Atramentis has 3 Document Brown inks: Urban Sienna, Brown, Sepia.
https://inkswatch.com/color.html?color=Brown
If you adjust the filter to De Atramentis, you see them one beside this one.
Also the Artist line is slight less expensive than Document. They are lightfast and waterproof, but are not ISO 12757-2.

[calamus]

Sounds like this would be an excellent sketching ink, if I could get past the 'pigmented' thing. Oh, well, that's what cheeep pens are for.

I went through a period of months, maybe even a year, of using only DeAtramentis document inks in ALL my pens. (I'd spilled water on a letter and had to rewrite it, and then another time I knocked over a Manhattan, wasting some excellent rye whiskey and ruining another letter. And then there's the paranoia of rain + envelopes addressed in regular FP ink.) I even bought bottles of Cyan (Turquoise), Magenta (Fuchsia), Yellow, and Black document inks -- the CMYK 4-color print media "primaries" -- and white for tints, and was mixing my own colors with it. Like I said, I used it in all my pens, including a Carène, a Pelikan, and a Sailor 1911, as well as all my vintage pens including some Duofolds and Balances and a Blackbird. Never had a problem with any of them. The sepia was, and is, one of my favorites.

This is not your grandfather's pigmented ink. It's pigmented with nanoparticles, which are kept in suspension by Brownian motion. The secret to maintaining that is the "dilution fluid" they use. It's not water, but something they whipped up in their laboratories that has a different surface tension than water. They even sell bottles of the plain dilution fluid so you can top off any bottles of document ink that have lost volume due to evaporation.

Bottom line: you can use this stuff in any pen you like, without fear of damaging it. Even if it dries in a pen, Rapido-eze, which will remove dried up India ink, will also get your pen as clean as a whistle. (That would be a clean whistle, of course. I once saw a dirty one. It was a jarring experience.) I never did any special maintenance on my pens either. I treated them just as if they'd been inked with a dye-based ink.

Most of the DeAtramentis document inks don't show any shading, but the sepia does, at least with B or BB nibs, and flex nibs and stubs and italics. Great stuff. My wife has a Duofold that she keeps inked with it all the time since she got it a couple of years ago.

Edit: P. S. My paranoia did finally get the better of me with my more expensive vintage pens, and I went back to only using"safe" inks in them. Just in case. My wife's Duofold is an aerometric filler with a silicone sac, and she refuses to change ink.

[calamus]

This is an excellent sepia ink by De Atramentis. I loved using it over and over again. Very well behaved, easier to clean than blue inks

Let's start with the chroma:
Chroma - DeA - Document Sepia.jpg
Writing Samples:
Rhodia - DeA- Doc Sepia.jpgMidori - DeA- Doc Sepia.jpegTR - DeA Document Sepia.jpeg
Photo:
photo document sepia.jpg
Comparison:
Comparison - Whaleman's Sepia .jpg
Water test: Left side was dabbed with water. The smudge beside the kitty was there before the watertest
Watertest-DeA- Doc Sepia.jpeg
And per usual an art work, part of the Inktober yearly challenge, prompt was Camel:
Paper is a Talens square notebook.


· Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, Stub/ Kaweco (EF/F/M/B/Stub 1.1), Osmiroid Copperplate nib
· What I liked: Really well-behaved ink. Very well-behaved ink. Excellent for sketching! And easy to clean!
· What I did not like: Nothing
· What some might not like: It’s a nano pigment ink
· Shading: Yes, with wider nibs.
· Ghosting: No.
· Bleed through: No.
· Flow Rate: Lovely.
· Lubrication: Nice, thought best with European pens.
· Nib Dry-out: No.
· Start-up: No.
· Saturation: Nice.
· Shading Potential: Only with flex nibs
· Sheen: No.
· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: No.
· Nib Creep / “Crud”: Didn’t notice.
· Staining (pen): No.
· Clogging: No.
· Cleaning: Very easy
· Water resistance: Excellent.
· Availability: 45 ml bottles.

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

Wow! You have spent an enormous amount of time on this review. Lots of work. Thank you so much!!

[Yazeh]

Wow! You have spent an enormous amount of time on this review. Lots of work. Thank you so much!!

Thank you. Actually, I've streamlined the process, so it doesn't take that much time
But mostly, I appreciate you sharing your experience with DeA inks. It confirms my experience, too. I find some "safe" inks actually more difficult to clean than "unsafe: ones