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    Cool De Atramentis Document Red Grey

    I really enjoyed using this ink. It’s an improved version of Noodler’s Red Black with the added full waterproofness, until I reached the cleaning part. It was not as straightforward as I thought. The ink managed to stain my Lamy convertor and in the end after soaking for few hours in water, the red dye was more than tenacious. So, I simply dunked it in my Monteverde cleaning solution and the problem was solved.
    However it didn't stain the Pilot CON-40 nor the cheap nonane Chinese convertor.

    This is not a deal breaker for me. The worst thing is when ink smudges or refuses to dry, then bleed through. The rest I can live with, if I really like the ink.
    It also doesn't like cheap thin papers.
    Let's start with the chroma:
    Chroma - DA - Red Grey.jpg
    Writing samples:
    Rhodia - DeA - Red Grey.jpgMidori- DeA -REd Grey.jpegTR 68 gr- DEA REd GRey.jpeg
    It doesn't like thin copy paper.

    Hammermill 20- DeA -REd Grey.jpg
    Photo:
    20230919_165212.jpg
    Comparison:
    Comparison DA Red Grey.jpg
    Water-test: (Nothing budges)
    Watertest - DeA -REd Grey.jpeg
    and finally an artwork. from a drawing challenge, entitled Solar System with my cat and mouse characters
    Fountain pen inks De Atramentis Urban Grey / Red Grey
    Kuretake brush pen (black)
    Water colour (blue), Silver marker





    · Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, (Lamy EF/F/M/B/Stub 1.1), Osmiroid Copperplate nib
    · What I liked: Well lubricated, intriguing colour.
    · What disappointed me: Staining of Lamy convertor (a first for me), and cleaning.
    · What some might not like: High maintenance cleaning, staining convertor, doesn't like cheap thin paper.
    · Shading: Yes
    · Ghosting: No.
    · Bleed through:
    · Flow Rate: Wet
    · Lubrication: Excellent - Cushiony
    · Nib Dry-out: No.
    · Start-up: No.
    · Saturation: No.
    · Shading Potential: Yes
    · Sheen: No.
    · Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: No.
    · Nib Creep / “Crud”: Didn’t notice.
    · Staining (pen): Yes, Lamy convertor!
    · Clogging: No.
    · Cleaning: The red dye is tenacious.
    · Water resistance: Excellent.
    · Availability: 45 ml bottles.

    Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

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    Default Re: De Atramentis Document Red Grey

    Mousey, carrying steroid taking kitteh with the world on his shoulders? Know how he feels
    I would call it brown to my eyes. I quite like it.
    Thanks for the review, Yazeh.
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    Default Re: De Atramentis Document Red Grey

    Quote Originally Posted by Carpio View Post
    Mousey, carrying steroid taking kitteh with the world on his shoulders? Know how he feels
    I would call it brown to my eyes. I quite like it.
    Thanks for the review, Yazeh.
    A pleasure !

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    Default Re: De Atramentis Document Red Grey

    I remember Black Cherry!

    As for the Ink du Jour, I like the color, and the comparisons, AND the Kitteh/Mousie cosmos. (I'm not sure I'd buy it, though.)

    I also love how thoroughly you 'Document' all the inks you test. Thanks, Yazeh!
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    Default Re: De Atramentis Document Red Grey

    Another interesting water-resistant ink in dusky color.
    Something that I currently like to use with my sketches.

    Thank you for reviewing this, Yazeh!
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    Default Re: De Atramentis Document Red Grey

    Thank you, Yazeh, for another fun and thorough review! Not sure I trust kitty - what happens when he spots the Enterprise and starts ek-ek-ek-ing? Perhaps sophisticated water-test kitty and mouse are toasting their cousins' success. Also not sure about the ink. The cleaning sounds un-fun, but I guess if pen flush takes care of it, it's not the end of the world...

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    Default Re: De Atramentis Document Red Grey

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    I remember Black Cherry!

    As for the Ink du Jour, I like the color, and the comparisons, AND the Kitteh/Mousie cosmos. (I'm not sure I'd buy it, though.)

    I also love how thoroughly you 'Document' all the inks you test. Thanks, Yazeh!
    Always a pleasure! I love the jeu de mots

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    Quote Originally Posted by penwash View Post
    Another interesting water-resistant ink in dusky color.
    Something that I currently like to use with my sketches.

    Thank you for reviewing this, Yazeh!
    Always a pleasure 🙏 Yes it's fun for sketching though, I wouldn't put it in one of delicious vintage pens

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    Default Re: De Atramentis Document Red Grey

    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    Thank you, Yazeh, for another fun and thorough review!
    🙏
    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    Not sure I trust kitty - what happens when he spots the Enterprise and starts ek-ek-ek-ing?
    Well there's always superMaus
    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    Perhaps sophisticated water-test kitty and mouse are toasting their cousins' success.
    Who knows
    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    Also not sure about the ink. The cleaning sounds un-fun, but I guess if pen flush takes care of it, it's not the end of the world...
    Ah, I see someone is having funs with puns

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    Default Re: De Atramentis Document Red Grey

    I didn't know this even existed - so thank you Yazeh for that, as well as the review.

    I like the colour - though I have a number of inks I also like in similar shades, and the occasional stained converter really doesn't bother me, so this might well be in my future. Along with so many others!

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    Default Re: De Atramentis Document Red Grey

    Quote Originally Posted by mizgeorge View Post
    I didn't know this even existed - so thank you Yazeh for that, as well as the review.
    🙏
    Quote Originally Posted by mizgeorge View Post
    I like the colour - though I have a number of inks I also like in similar shades, and the occasional stained converter really doesn't bother me, so this might well be in my future. Along with so many others!
    Glad to hear that

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