De Atramentis Document Black Red

[Yazeh]

I really wanted to like this ink, but it didn't sing for me.
Before writing I had to smudge the ink to make sure it was the right ink. That's when you have too many pens inked
But as you will see, in scans it's clearly a brownish/ reddish ink and looks very elegant.

The cleaning was a bit of pain.
I was really disappointed when I had smudging during the water test. That's not something I was expecting from a document ink.
I got my sample from Goulet's, but couldn't find this ink on De Atramentis's website. Maybe it's discontinued or maybe renamed? 😛

Let's start with the chroma:
Chroma - DeA - Document Black Red.jpg
Writing samples:
It seems I forgot to write with a sample with Japanese Ef. Ah well, nobody's perfect Maybe @LizEF will do a review in 2025 😜
Rhodia- DeA - Black Red.jpg
Midori
Midori - DeA Black Red.jpegTr 68 gr - Dea Black Red.jpeg

Very well behaved on Hammermill...
Hammermill - DeA - Black Red.jpg

Photo (TR 68gr)

De Atramentis Black Red.jpg
Comparison:
Comparison - Black Red.jpg
Water test: (quelle horreur!)
Watertest - Black Red.jpeg


And finally an artwork, entitled fall. The red ink, is De Atramentis Document Red with a bit Black Red mixed in,


· Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, Stub, Lamy Safari (EF/F/M/B/Stub 1.1), Osmiroid Nib
· What I liked: I wasn’t enamored with the colour but found it enjoyable with a broad nib.
· What I did not like: Not an interesting colour with finer nibs, might as well stick with black. Not 100 percent waterproof.
· What some might not like: The same as above and cleaning.
· Shading: With M/B nibs.
· Ghosting: No.
· Bleed through: No.
· Flow Rate: Wet
· Lubrication: Lower than average.
· Nib Dry-out: Didn’t notice.
· Start-up: No.
· Saturation: Saturated.
· Shading Potential: Only with M/B nibs.
· Sheen: No.
· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice.
· Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.
· Staining (pen): No.
· Clogging: No.
· Cleaning: I didn’t have the patience to soak it overnight in water and went the easy way, with a cleaning solution.
· Water resistance: Good. I was surprised that some of the ink came off.
· Availability: 45 ml bottles.

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

[Sailor Kenshin]

Good morning!

I can see red in the writing sample, maybe even a little in the chroma, but yes, this is black. The comparisons are very cool.

Is the water-drop on Kitteh's whisker a happy accident? Water's on my mind. And Kitteh looking disgruntled because leaf-fallin' Mousie's about to land on his head?

Thanks again from Soggy 'day five of deluge' Sailor.

[mizgeorge]

Thank you as always Yazeh for such a comprehensive review.

You're right though, the colour isn't interesting enough to really be of interest - especially given the other inks in the series that are similar but have a bit more to them somehow.

I love the falling mouse though

[Yazeh]

Good morning!

I can see red in the writing sample, maybe even a little in the chroma, but yes, this is black. The comparisons are very cool.

🙏

Is the water-drop on Kitteh's whisker a happy accident? Water's on my mind. And Kitteh looking disgruntled because leaf-fallin' Mousie's about to land on his head?

I'm not sure if I see any drop in Fall But if there is, it's a happy accident I don't know what goes on in the Kitteh's head. I often misinterpret my feline's vocalization. So, it's all a guess

Thanks again from Soggy 'day five of deluge' Sailor.

Most welcome 🙏

[Yazeh]

Thank you as always Yazeh for such a comprehensive review.

🙏

You're right though, the colour isn't interesting enough to really be of interest - especially given the other inks in the series that are similar but have a bit more to them somehow.

Indeed. I was hoping for more Oomph. But I guess it would be good for those who look for not so black ink and will satisfy their sense of rebellion

I love the falling mouse though

Me too

[LizEF]

Thank you for the review of this almost waterproof ink! "Fall" is my favorite part, but I also like the color in the photo. I think this ink is a good candidate for the name "De Atramentis Documentish Black Brown".

[LizEF]

I'm not sure if I see any drop in Fall ...

I think Sailor meant the blue-green / aqua splotch in the water test.

[Yazeh]

Thank you for the review of this almost waterproof ink! "Fall" is my favorite part, but I also like the color in the photo. I think this ink is a good candidate for the name "De Atramentis Documentish Black Brown".

Indeed almost I'm still at awe of Fall myself, and often wonder who drew it
I'm sure, the spellcheck went berserk with your wordplay and had a melt down

[Yazeh]

I'm not sure if I see any drop in Fall ...

I think Sailor meant the blue-green / aqua splotch in the water test.

Oh that must have been a very persistent splotch from another water test, then