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    Cool J Herbin Bleu Nuit

    J Herbin Bleu Nuit (Night blue)

    Is wet, when wet a blurple with low lubrication, transforming into a washed-out denim colour. The colour doesn’t remind me of night but maybe dusk. Ink shades and does not like copy paper.
    It has some water resistance and is easy to clean.
    It is one of my first bottles of inks (is over 10 years old), and while not my favorite, I’ve found a new life for it in my Kuretake brush pen to do artwork. It also can be mixed with Perle Noire, to convert it to delicious looking blue blacks.

    Let's start with the the complex chroma:
    Chroma- Bleu nuit.jpeg
    Writing Samples:
    There are two texts which I've casually translated:
    The first, by the French surrealist poet Louis Aragon (1897 – 1982)
    When I speak of love, my love irritates you,
    When I say the weather is lovely, you shout "it rains",
    You say my meadows have too many daisies,
    and too many stars in my nights, and too much sky in my blue sky...


    The 2nd is from Pierrot, or the secrets of the night, by the French novelist Michel Tournier (1924-2016)

    Listen to a marvellous secret: my night is not not black, it is blue. A blue that one can breath... my oven is not black, it's golden, a gold one can eat....

    Rhodia- Bleu Nuit.jpgMidori Bleu Nuit.jpegTR 68gr Bleu Nuit.jpegHammermill - Bleu Nuit.jpg
    Photo:
    Blue nuit - photo.jpg
    Comparison:
    Comparison - Bleu nuit.jpeg
    Watertest:
    Watertest - Bleu Nuit.jpeg

    and finally a whimsical artwork, named the Red Penguin musing at night.
    I was reviewing Octopus Brown Penguin and was practicing my penguins
    Inks used:

    J Herbin Blue nuit mix with Perle Noire (sky)
    J Herbin Blue nuit (sea)
    Octopus Brown Colibri (land)
    and De Atramentis Document Red



    • Pens used: Pilot 3A Ef, Lamy Safari (EF/F/M/B, 1.1), Conway Stewart 330
    • What I liked: Using it with a brush pen, mixing it. Easy cleaning,
    • What I did not like: Dryness, the colour.
    • What some might not like: Same as above, plus it doesn’t like copy paper.
    • Shading: Yes.
    • Ghosting: Yes, on copy paper.
    • Bleed through: Yes, on copy paper.
    • Flow Rate: Wet
    • Lubrication: Low
    • Nib Dry-out: In between nib changes.
    • Start-up: No.
    • Saturation: Low.
    • Shading Potential: Yes, but not dramatic.
    • Sheen: No.
    • Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Only with a primed, wide, wet vintage nib on copy paper
    • Nib Creep / “Crud”: No.
    • Staining (pen): No.
    • Clogging: No
    • Cleaning: Easy-peasy
    • Water resistance: decent
    • Availability: 6 pack cartridges, 10 ml, 30 ml bottles.



    Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

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    Default Re: J Herbin Bleu Nuit

    Thank you for the review, Yazeh! My experience with this ink pretty much matches yours. Your chroma confirms the purple I saw - thank you for that! The ink's color wasn't much to my liking, but your blue-black idea is brilliant! Some of my Perle Noire will be going into the remaining Bleu Nuit! Kitty is happy to be out in the night, though I'm not sure how he likes being Mousey's recliner. At least they've found protection from the rain. Mr. Penguin appears to be pondering the universe - or at least wondering whether to go fishing. Penguins always look mildly confused to me - perhaps waddling about is incompatible with confidence - they seem at home once in the water, though.

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    Default Re: J Herbin Bleu Nuit

    Fab review as always - thank you so much Yazeh

    I'm going to be in a minority, I suspect, but I rather like the colour - I have a weakness for slightly 'dusty' inks and use them a lot, especially with vintage pens and for artwork. I have it currently in a rather wet old piston filler, and it suits it very well.

    I've never done a chroma for it though, and it looks gorgeous, which explains why it works so well for washes - I also love the artwork - moon mouse is just too sweet and you've captured the slight awkwardness of the penguin perfectly.

    I like the idea of making it blue-black too - though I'm not exactly short of b/b inks

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    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    Thank you for the review, Yazeh! My experience with this ink pretty much matches yours. Your chroma confirms the purple I saw - thank you for that!
    Yep. I'm thinking of all mixing it with Lierre sauvage (or Lierre Sausage according to spellcheck ), to create a teal-ish colour.
    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    The ink's color wasn't much to my liking, but your blue-black idea is brilliant! Some of my Perle Noire will be going into the remaining Bleu Nuit!
    Thanks! And I'm sure you can make your Efnir great blue-black!

    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    Kitty is happy to be out in the night, though I'm not sure how he likes being Mousey's recliner. At least they've found protection from the rain. Mr. Penguin appears to be pondering the universe - or at least wondering whether to go fishing. Penguins always look mildly confused to me - perhaps waddling about is incompatible with confidence - they seem at home once in the water, though.
    I'm glad that my little sketches evoke so much storytelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizgeorge View Post
    Fab review as always - thank you so much Yazeh
    A pleasure!
    Quote Originally Posted by mizgeorge View Post
    I'm going to be in a minority, I suspect, but I rather like the colour - I have a weakness for slightly 'dusty' inks and use them a lot, especially with vintage pens and for artwork. I have it currently in a rather wet old piston filler, and it suits it very well.
    When I checked other reviews of this ink, I realized many like this ink. For me it shines in artwork.
    Quote Originally Posted by mizgeorge View Post
    I've never done a chroma for it though, and it looks gorgeous, which explains why it works so well for washes -
    Yes, it must brilliant in washes

    Quote Originally Posted by mizgeorge View Post
    I also love the artwork - moon mouse is just too sweet and you've captured the slight awkwardness of the penguin perfectly.
    Thank you. Much appreciated....
    Quote Originally Posted by mizgeorge View Post
    I like the idea of making it blue-black too - though I'm not exactly short of b/b inks
    Thank you. You can create even paler blues with, maybe you don't have enough of these

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    Default Re: J Herbin Bleu Nuit

    Ooo, another ink I have! And likely older even than yours…. 😸

    I found it dry, like many of the JJ inks. Love the Kitteh with Mousie Moon sketch and Mr. Penguin. It's interesting how the ink does look demin-y in some spots and that is quite a complex chroma!

    Thanks, Yazeh, for yet another of these ink-splorations. Good reminder to load up this ink in a gusher sometime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    Ooo, another ink I have! And likely older even than yours…. 😸

    I found it dry, like many of the JJ inks. Love the Kitteh with Mousie Moon sketch and Mr. Penguin. It's interesting how the ink does look demin-y in some spots and that is quite a complex chroma!

    Thanks, Yazeh, for yet another of these ink-splorations. Good reminder to load up this ink in a gusher sometime soon.
    Thanks for sharing your experience !🙏

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    Default Re: J Herbin Bleu Nuit

    Washed out denim? I have looked at this ink, and Bleu Nuit suits my imagination much better. I have been looking at blues and indigos (...and trying to figure out what indigo actaully looks like). What type of pen did you use? When I use my wetter pens, printing paper fails with most inks, but I have a couple of less wet models, among them a Parker 51 and a Chinese pen, they behave on any paper and many inks.

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    Default Re: J Herbin Bleu Nuit

    Quote Originally Posted by arrow View Post
    Washed out denim?
    It's a bit vague, but it's like palish denim.
    Quote Originally Posted by arrow View Post
    I have looked at this ink, and Bleu Nuit suits my imagination much better. I have been looking at blues and indigos (...and trying to figure out what indigo actaully looks like). What type of pen did you use?
    It's mentioned above Pilot F3A, a dry Lamy Safari and a very wet Conway Stewart 330 with a oblique nib
    Quote Originally Posted by arrow View Post
    When I use my wetter pens, printing paper fails with most inks, but I have a couple of less wet models, among them a Parker 51 and a Chinese pen, they behave on any paper and many inks.
    You can always get a 10 ml bottle and give it a try

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    Default Re: J Herbin Bleu Nuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    ...It's mentioned above Pilot F3A, a dry Lamy Safari and a very wet Conway Stewart 330 with a oblique nib
    Sorry, I missed that, I was focusing on how it performed on the different papers and how it might compare to other blues. I am making a list for an ink order, and it is noted down.
    I need something lighter than blueblack at times.

    Thanks :- )

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    Quote Originally Posted by arrow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    ...It's mentioned above Pilot F3A, a dry Lamy Safari and a very wet Conway Stewart 330 with a oblique nib
    Sorry, I missed that, I was focusing on how it performed on the different papers and how it might compare to other blues. I am making a list for an ink order, and it is noted down.
    I need something lighter than blueblack at times.

    Thanks :- )
    No problem. I like it most for brush painting.
    This was another drawing I did for inktober. Note that the paper is very absorbent:

    Fountain pen ink : Platinum Carbon Black
    J Herbin Perle Noire + Diamine Sepia


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    Default Re: J Herbin Bleu Nuit

    In the sea behind the horse, cat and mouse looks very good.

    This is a favorite color of mine (I have many) and with a flower you hopefully have a reference in real life too. PC monitors changes things.


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    Quote Originally Posted by arrow View Post
    In the sea behind the horse, cat and mouse looks very good.

    This is a favorite color of mine (I have many) and with a flower you hopefully have a reference in real life too. PC monitors changes things.

    That reminds me of Iroshizuku ajisai
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    Quote Originally Posted by arrow View Post
    In the sea behind the horse, cat and mouse looks very good.

    This is a favorite color of mine (I have many) and with a flower you hopefully have a reference in real life too. PC monitors changes things.

    The thing is bachelor's buttons (centaurea cyanus) the colour in real life is a true blue and punchy. Bleu nuit is more faded

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    Another thing about Herbin inks. Often times the ink names are just a marketing gimmick.
    For example, Bleu Myosotis, or Forget me not blue which from the reviews seems to be a dusky indigo, has nothing do with the forget me not flower a bright sky blue flower. The same goes for Bleu Pervenche, (Periwinkle blue) The ink is turquoise, the flower is some kind of purple
    Today, I was mixing
    This was done with a brush pen, The cartridge was mostly filled with Lierre Sauvage (Wild Ivy) and a hint of Bleu nuit....
    First the sea glass blue green and then the ink stabilized to the to top left green, which removed the harshness of Lierre sausage.


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    Default Re: J Herbin Bleu Nuit

    @Yazeh
    Just adding to the appreciation for this whole series of reviews — the artwork, the selection of quotes, and of course the recent penguin trend.

    Here's my favourite penguin photo, which you may have seen before. Somehow the lone penguin above brought it to mind.



    The touching back story is here: https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-55416365
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    Quote Originally Posted by catbert View Post
    @Yazeh
    Just adding to the appreciation for this whole series of reviews — the artwork, the selection of quotes, and of course the recent penguin trend.
    Thank you so much. It means a lot
    Quote Originally Posted by catbert View Post
    Here's my favourite penguin photo, which you may have seen before. Somehow the lone penguin above brought it to mind.

    The touching back story is here: https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-55416365
    If it's not your art, it's these touching stories, which makes the world a better place, my friend 🙏🙏🙏

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