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    Default Help to identify this old rusted auto?

    Can anyone who knows old cars help me to identify this rusted portion of a car body I found in the woods of Maine? It is located on an old farm homestead (now wooded), occupied from about 1830-1930. TIA












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    Quote Originally Posted by INeedAFinancialAdvisor View Post
    Nope. I owned a ‘30 Model A Towne Sedan (with those rear quarter windows) and the bead pattern doesn’t match. I looked at many online photos of many marques trying to match, without success.

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    Yeah, the Model A rear-side window and wheel well placement don't seem quite right. But I was given a lead on the 1929 Nash, which is intriguing. Same kind of rounded corners, and the window and wheel well seem right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Yeah, the Model A rear-side window and wheel well placement don't seem quite right. But I was given a lead on the 1929 Nash, which is intriguing. Same kind of rounded corners, and the window and wheel well seem right.
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    Agreed. Much better match

    https://www.mecum.com/lots/524864/

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    Hudson is a good call.

    Hudson motorcars in 1929 and 1930 applied a fancier pattern in the raised bead below the bottom corners of their quarter windows and door windows the length of the coachwork. It does not match the lonely rust bucket in the woods.

    IMG_1364A.jpeg

    But at some point in 1930 model production and into 1931, Hudson simplified the bead to better match the rust bucket. Here's a 1930 Hudson appearing in Hemmings Motor News online (photo flipped to match angle of OP's photo).

    65993284-770-0@2X.jpg

    Hemming's paywall blocked me from discovering which model Hudson it is.

    TSherbs, you've got quite a restoration project on your hands.
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    I question why you want to know. Anything more than idle curiosity? If you get a definitive answer, what benefit derives? Do you aspire to be an automotive anthropologist?

    I've photographed a lot of auto shows as well as rusted wrecks in the woods. If I ever knew what model or year it was, I didn't really care. An old car/truck to me is just an old car/truck. Different strokes, I suppose, also different bores (sorry!).

    Here's the sort of image I'd find interesting --- Valley Spring, CA 2010:
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    Default Re: Help to identify this old rusted auto?

    man... and I thought cars in the 90's all looked too much alike... complete lack of any real imagination back in the late 20's / early 30's apparently...

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    Quote Originally Posted by INeedAFinancialAdvisor View Post
    man... and I thought cars in the 90's all looked too much alike... complete lack of any real imagination back in the late 20's / early 30's apparently...
    I cannot agree with that. Sort of like fountain pens from the late '20s into the '30s.




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    Quote Originally Posted by INeedAFinancialAdvisor View Post
    man... and I thought cars in the 90's all looked too much alike... complete lack of any real imagination back in the late 20's / early 30's apparently...
    I cannot agree with that. Sort of like fountain pens from the late '20s into the '30s.




    Obviously there are outliers (it’s not like a lambo from the 90s can be mistaken for anything else…). But it certainly appears that many manufacturers made extremely similar cars in the late 20s.
    So yeah. Not a” complete “ lack of imagination i guess.
    But overall many manufacturers do seem to have been playing the copy the competitor game.

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    @Bill: I am asking for a friend researching a homestead to build a historical tour of some preservation lands (current status). I said I would help put out feelers with some folks who like to collect things.... There is a lot of other research to do; this is just one part. I don't care at all about old cars myself, but I figured--correctly--that some folks here do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    Hudson is a good call.

    Hudson motorcars in 1929 and 1930 applied a fancier pattern in the raised bead below the bottom corners of their quarter windows and door windows the length of the coachwork. It does not match the lonely rust bucket in the woods.

    IMG_1364A.jpeg

    But at some point in 1930 model production and into 1931, Hudson simplified the bead to better match the rust bucket. Here's a 1930 Hudson appearing in Hemmings Motor News online (photo flipped to match angle of OP's photo).

    65993284-770-0@2X.jpg

    Hemming's paywall blocked me from discovering which model Hudson it is.

    TSherbs, you've got quite a restoration project on your hands.
    That Hudson is also an intriguing possibility. I appreciate the time and energy, Fred. It's a bit of a mystery puzzle to solve...if I ever can.

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    Default Re: Help to identify this old rusted auto?

    It would be a lot of work, but I'll suggest you look through the 15K images in the Flickr group for 1920's cars....

    https://www.flickr.com/groups/1158461@N23/

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    yeah, I don't have a flickr account and don't feel like opening another account just for this (not really my research project anyway). But thanks, to everyone, for all the suggestions. I have passed the info back to the actual researcher and he can take it from here....

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    that'll buff out for sure

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