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    Default Fake OMAS on eBay?

    Does anyone have a lead on this? These do not seem to be the new Pen Family Omas Paragons, based on the trim and shape and nibs etc. And yet they’re using portico nibs…very odd…
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/22599109428...3ABFBM5vv31c9j
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    Default Re: Fake OMAS on eBay?

    Will, I can't find the document or email where I saw something explained, but are you aware that there are currently TWO companies manufacturing pens under the OMAS name? "The Pen Family" somehow got rights to part of the product line, and then there was an Italian company, with some ties to the original? or to Delta? or something, who are also producing pens.

    I'm sorry that this is all so sketchy in quality of data, but it was something that was sent to me in passing regarding another question. My main point is that some more investigation is warranted but not that they are fakes or copies, but it might be part of this "two competing OMAS" scenario. Truly odd.

    If I can track down the source that I read, I'll repost here.
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    Ah, ok, I may have found the place where I saw this discussed. Take a look at the following thread:

    The OMAS brand has made some new pens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Will, I can't find the document or email where I saw something explained, but are you aware that there are currently TWO companies manufacturing pens under the OMAS name? "The Pen Family" somehow got rights to part of the product line, and then there was an Italian company, with some ties to the original? or to Delta? or something, who are also producing pens.

    I'm sorry that this is all so sketchy in quality of data, but it was something that was sent to me in passing regarding another question. My main point is that some more investigation is warranted but not that they are fakes or copies, but it might be part of this "two competing OMAS" scenario. Truly odd.

    If I can track down the source that I read, I'll repost here.
    I was aware that there were two companies but didn’t know the Delta(?)-associated one had actually started making pens. I can’t find any website for them (the pen company’s site is Omasofficial). I would be very interested in any information from the company…these listings are calling things arco etc but it is of course a new acrylic “replica” material (big quotes around that because it looks nothing like it!
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    It’s probably a mea culpa on the Delta reference, I maybe was misremembering Ancora connection? Anyway, that thread was better than my memory, that’s certain!
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    Default Re: Fake OMAS on eBay?

    Whether it is this 'Omas' or the other, I wonder just how successful they are in selling.

    To my way of thinking, the only rightful heir to the throne is Scribo.

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    Default Re: Fake OMAS on eBay?

    I agree. Scribo.

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    Default Re: Fake OMAS on eBay?

    Quote Originally Posted by ralfstc View Post
    I agree. Scribo.
    But sadly, they seem to be the least interested of the group of companies who claim to be the "real" Omas.
    Maybe because they see the inevitable, ugly legal collision course the others are on?

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    Default Re: Fake OMAS on eBay?

    For me the real and only OMAS pens to have go from 1920 to 1990, before the weird resin acrylics
    The rest I'm not so sure of their quality.
    The new Omas leverages on a name that is dead and buried. I'd steer away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoA64 View Post
    For me the real and only OMAS pens to have go from 1920 to 1990, before the weird resin acrylics
    The rest I'm not so sure of their quality.
    The new Omas leverages on a name that is dead and buried. I'd steer away.
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    Default Re: Fake OMAS on eBay?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoA64 View Post
    For me the real and only OMAS pens to have go from 1920 to 1990, before the weird resin acrylics
    The rest I'm not so sure of their quality.
    The new Omas leverages on a name that is dead and buried. I'd steer away.
    What happened in 1990?

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    Default Re: Fake OMAS on eBay?

    They started making them with a vegetal resin and the pens of that period have barrel and cap shrinking problems. The piston can't move anymore and it is difficult to get someone to repair them. The model Gentleman is an example and I went through these issues. It may or it may not happen. You have to get the barrel rebored on a lathe. Whether it is 1990 or early 2000 I don't exactly remember.

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    Default Re: Fake OMAS on eBay?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoA64 View Post
    They started making them with a vegetal resin and the pens of that period have barrel and cap shrinking problems. The piston can't move anymore and it is difficult to get someone to repair them. The model Gentleman is an example and I went through these issues. It may or it may not happen. You have to get the barrel rebored on a lathe. Whether it is 1990 or early 2000 I don't exactly remember.
    Good to know.

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