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    Cool Koh-I-Noor Document Blue

    Koh-I-Noor Document Blue

    Thanks for @Lithium466 for the sample.

    This is one of the cheapest document inks, you could ever find. However, it stains, doesn’t like copy paper and it is a pain to clean. Though if you use it exclusively in one pen and don't use cheap paper, you're fine.

    Check this link on reddit to see the staining:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpen...mend_kohinoor/

    It has a faint reddish sheen. In my experience it is more waterproof than its black sibling.

    When you clean your pen, the ink looks just lovely in the sink. Pity it’s not the colour you write with. It rarely ever is, isn’t it?

    Let's start with the chroma:
    Chroma - Koh-I-NOor - Document Blue.jpeg

    Writing Samples:
    I dipped a Kanwrite with a flex nib in my ink vial. I don't recommend flex nib with this ink, unless you're a monk and live before Gutenberg's time in some monastery and have to copy some arcane treatise. And even then I would stick with a nice homemade iron gall recipe
    Rhodia-KIN-Docblue.jpg

    Midori -KIN-Docblue.jpeg

    TR68 -KIN-Docblue.jpeg

    Hammermill-KIN-Docblue.jpg
    Photo:
    Koh-I- Noor - Document Blue.jpg
    This is to show off the sheen. It's only visible on Japanese paper.
    Koh-I-Noor sheen.jpg
    Comparison:
    Comparison-KohInoor-Blue.jpg

    Water test:
    No animals were harmed during this test
    Watertest - KiH-Documet BLue.jpeg
    Artwork:
    This was part of the Inktober yearly challenge. The prompt was mythology. This is a humorous take about the origins of the snake (or maybe Snek) and the apple..
    Other inks used:
    Noodler’s Lexington Gray/ Eel Red Rattler’s Red
    Kakimori Kurun (Green)

    You can see see the sheen in the corner top right of the page.




    · Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, Lamy (EF/F/M/B, BB), Ahab nib dipped.
    · What I liked: Doing washes. Empty the ink in the sink. The colour is mesmerizing, very cheap.
    · What I did not like: The colour, writing with Kakuno Ef, cleaning the pen
    · What some might not like: It’s a document ink, slightly chalky, stains,
    · Shading: Did not notice.
    · Ghosting: Yes, on cheap paper.
    · Bleed through: Yes, on cheap paper.
    · Flow Rate: Wet
    · Lubrication: Slightly below average.
    · Nib Dry-out: Did not notice. Though it didn't like the Kakuno. Though almost no ink likes this pen.
    · Start-up: Ok
    · Saturation: Pastel
    · Shading Potential: Dismal.
    · Sheen: Yes, the more the ink evaporates the more prounced it is.
    · Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: On copy paper
    · Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.
    · Staining (pen): Yes baby!
    · Clogging: Did not notice.
    · Cleaning: A royal pain. You need a cleaning solution.
    · Water resistance: Excellent
    · Availability: Surprisingly it comes in grams and not millilitres. 30gr (glass bottles ) 50 gr plastic bottles & international long cartridges.

    Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

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    Default Re: Koh-I-Noor Document Blue

    Thanks, I'll be sticking with my DeAtramentis document blue --- also a bit darker than this, which I prefer.

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    Default Re: Koh-I-Noor Document Blue

    I also have a sample of this ink, and after looking at that reddit image, I'm wondering if I should pre-stain something (I have Penmanship spare parts I could stain) to see if bleach will remove it. Or maybe I should plan to use a different feed - not that you could see the stain with a Penmanship feed - they're already a very dark, translucent blue.

    The chroma's a nice soothing blue - doesn't look like the sort of color that would go all violent on your demonstrator... And the color isn't the standard royal blue I was expecting. It's paler than I would have thought, and maybe leans slightly green - not enough to show, just enough to not look like it leans purple...? I'm curious now to see if this ink is close to anything I have... Not sure it's a different enough for me to like it, but I am curious.

    Love the "Time is a great teacher..." quote. (Sounds like a Makhabesh quote.) And swatch-kitty showing off his tail-writing ability. Water test kitty and mouse, trying out a new umbrella! Love it!

    Best of all is the artwork! Love your little trio working together. Of course a cat would be involved in knocking that apple off the tree.... And more tail-writing! (I have considered Essri deciding he wants to learn to write... )

    Thanks, Yazeh, for another really fun review!

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    Default Re: Koh-I-Noor Document Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliant Bill View Post
    Thanks, I'll be sticking with my DeAtramentis document blue --- also a bit darker than this, which I prefer.
    If you have your perfect blue, there's no need to change it

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    Default Re: Koh-I-Noor Document Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    I also have a sample of this ink, and after looking at that reddit image, I'm wondering if I should pre-stain something (I have Penmanship spare parts I could stain) to see if bleach will remove it. Or maybe I should plan to use a different feed - not that you could see the stain with a Penmanship feed - they're already a very dark, translucent blue.

    The chroma's a nice soothing blue - doesn't look like the sort of color that would go all violent on your demonstrator... And the color isn't the standard royal blue I was expecting. It's paler than I would have thought, and maybe leans slightly green - not enough to show, just enough to not look like it leans purple...? I'm curious now to see if this ink is close to anything I have... Not sure it's a different enough for me to like it, but I am curious.

    Love the "Time is a great teacher..." quote. (Sounds like a Makhabesh quote.) And swatch-kitty showing off his tail-writing ability. Water test kitty and mouse, trying out a new umbrella! Love it!

    Best of all is the artwork! Love your little trio working together. Of course a cat would be involved in knocking that apple off the tree.... And more tail-writing! (I have considered Essri deciding he wants to learn to write... )

    Thanks, Yazeh, for another really fun review!
    There will be a residual ink iridescence on the feed. You'll be better off with Eel Red or Doyou or just ignore it. My Kakuno looks like an ink rag
    Yes the chroma is quite nice, even nicer in the sink. I wasn't fast enough to take a photo
    The colour is more like a pale royal blue. I don't see any green in the colour. And no hint of purple. Normally if the ink has any other components it'll show off in the chroma or cleaning process, like many Kobe inks, when the Kleenex one using to wick off the excess water looks quite pretty

    Yep, I'm sure Makhabesh loves the Time quote. Essri would respond, I prefer you a-th my teacher
    Glad you liked the drawing. I was planning to do the drawing monochrome but it's an ink review and I had to use the blue somewhere
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    Default Re: Koh-I-Noor Document Blue

    Oh my, Yazeh! I have nearly ALL your comparison inks, but not the Test Subject.

    However. I do have Monteverde's Documental Blue, and it does exactly everything the Koh-I-Noor ink does, right down to the chalkiness and blue on blue chroma.

    This is why I will never use the MV in anything other than its dedicated Five Below, cheep enough to be disposable, has its own personal pipette, pen. And is eight bucks a bottle cheep enough? That's the Monteverde Doc Blue price tag.

    Your review not only enlightened me, but cracked me up. Many thanks! Looking forward to the next one. Nithe to thee Eththri having fun with this ink.

    My other pen is a Montblanc.

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    Default Re: Koh-I-Noor Document Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    Oh my, Yazeh! I have nearly ALL your comparison inks, but not the Test Subject.

    However. I do have Monteverde's Documental Blue, and it does exactly everything the Koh-I-Noor ink does, right down to the chalkiness and blue on blue chroma.

    This is why I will never use the MV in anything other than its dedicated Five Below, cheep enough to be disposable, has its own personal pipette, pen. And is eight bucks a bottle cheep enough? That's the Monteverde Doc Blue price tag.

    Your review not only enlightened me, but cracked me up. Many thanks! Looking forward to the next one. Nithe to thee Eththri having fun with this ink.

    Thanks for your comments. I thought you have some of the samples (Heribin, ahoy!).
    This ink will need a cheap Chinese pen, but you cannot beat the price 50 ml = 8 US$
    Glad my sketches were enjoyable

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    Default Re: Koh-I-Noor Document Blue

    Koh-I-Noor Document Blue is an exceptional ink that stands out for its vibrant color and durability. Perfect for official documents and creative projects, this ink dries is lupus contagious quickly and resists fading, ensuring that your work remains sharp and legible over time. Whether used for writing, drawing, or printing, Koh-I-Noor Document Blue adds a professional touch to any project, making it a favorite among artists and professionals alike.

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