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    Default EFNIR: Herbin Violette Pensée

    Extra Fine Nib Ink Review: Herbin Violette Pensée

    This is review #289 in my series. Here's the YouTube video:


    Post-recording notes: This ink is much more red-leaning when wet, but loses a noticeable portion of the red as it dries. The microscope smear was yawnedy yawn yawn yawn. Given how wet the ink is, the shading will depend on the pen - a drier pen may give better shading, or longer strokes than would normally be made with an EF nib. Dry time was a bit over 1 minute on the front side of Rhodia. Cleaning was easy with plain water, but the ink is quite concentrated, so expect a few extra flushes. A distinctly pinkish color was visible during cleaning, but none of it clung to the pen.

    Zoomed in photo (One monitor is too blue, the other too red, but it's not too far off.)


    Screenshot (Too blue or too red, depending on the screen...)


    Scan of Completed Review (This seems closest to me.)


    Absorbent Paper Close-up (top is puzzle paper like thick newsprint, bottom is old 20lb copy paper) (Also too blue or too red, but not too far off... )


    Line width (The "I" in "Ink:". Magnification is 100x. The grid is 100x100µm. The scale is 330µm, with eleven divisions of 30µm each. The line width for this ink is roughly 308µm. With 289 inks measured, the average line width is 296µm.)


    Previous Review: Pilot Iroshizuku Ajisai.

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    Default Re: EFNIR: Herbin Violette Pensée

    Nice to see a purple that actually is purple. Many are called purple, few really are!

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    Default Re: EFNIR: Herbin Violette Pensée

    Ur ink, I haz its. 🎉

    But mine is pale, pale, watery violet. And it's one of my first inks, and I refuse to calculate how long ago I got it, which would make me feel older than I really am.

    Is your bottle/sample newish? Maybe it is a color that fades. I find yours to be more appealing. But I use VP in a Pelikano Jr. with a yellow body and a cap matching the ink color.


    Liz, thanks so much for making Tuesdays (especially those with demonic voices emanating from my desktop) interesting and fun!

    My other pen is a Montblanc.

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    Default Re: EFNIR: Herbin Violette Pensée

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliant Bill View Post
    Nice to see a purple that actually is purple. Many are called purple, few really are!
    It seems to cover a pretty broad range. Too bad we don't all get extensive training in color, like artists, then we'd know what to call colors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    Ur ink, I haz its. 🎉
    Did I leave the back door unlocked again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    But mine is pale, pale, watery violet. And it's one of my first inks, and I refuse to calculate how long ago I got it, which would make me feel older than I really am.

    Is your bottle/sample newish? Maybe it is a color that fades. I find yours to be more appealing. But I use VP in a Pelikano Jr. with a yellow body and a cap matching the ink color.
    Perhaps the formula changed, or perhaps it's just perception or digital imaging (the cameras / scanner didn't really like this ink). I don't know how old my sample is, it was given to me by @Lithium466 (who I think is here as well as there ).

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    Liz, thanks so much for making Tuesdays (especially those with demonic voices emanating from my desktop) interesting and fun!
    You're very welcome.

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    Default Re: EFNIR: Herbin Violette Pensée

    Thanks for another excellent review of one of my oldest inks

    "Mated connection" and telepathy

    I can see the reddish shade. Like Sailor mine is quite old and the colour has darkened over the years
    Vika seems to be quite unassuming about the fake wizard. Now is that wisdom or foolishness. Hopefully by the time we'll reach episode #300 we'll know.
    Thanks for making our Tuesdays so much fun 🙏🙏🙏

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    Default Re: EFNIR: Herbin Violette Pensée

    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliant Bill View Post
    Nice to see a purple that actually is purple. Many are called purple, few really are!
    It seems to cover a pretty broad range. Too bad we don't all get extensive training in color, like artists, then we'd know what to call colors...
    Speaking of artists and color, the artist John Paul Caponigro offers the following:

    "In 1666 the first color wheel was invented by Sir Isaac Newton, best known for his theories on gravity, motion, and light. Newton used a triangular prism to split a beam of white into a rainbow, proving that light is composed of a spectrum of hues – ROYGBIV. Newton believed colors shared harmonious relationships with one another and went so far as to assign musical notes to each hue."

    I use that in my Flickr gallery Sound of Color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Thanks for another excellent review of one of my oldest inks
    You're most welcome, and thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    "Mated connection" and telepathy
    Yeah, I was hoping I wasn't the only person who would find that amusing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    I can see the reddish shade. Like Sailor mine is quite old and the colour has darkened over the years
    Hooray! Yeah, old inks tend to darken - likely evaporation despite all our efforts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Vika seems to be quite unassuming about the fake wizard. Now is that wisdom or foolishness. Hopefully by the time we'll reach episode #300 we'll know.
    Not-exactly-a-spoiler (since I really have no intention of addressing this directly), but as we've learned in previous episodes, Vika (a creature of magic) can speak to the trees at least (not sure if she can communicate with the 'shrooms or other plants or other creatures of magic). And trees can all speak to each other, and they live a long time, thus, there's a lot of wisdom and knowledge had by the trees. (Implied in all that is that we presently know nothing about Vika's inner life - for all we know, during their long treks from place to place, Vika is having long conversations with the trees.) And yes, I think this question will be answered by episode 300.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Thanks for making our Tuesdays so much fun 🙏🙏🙏
    Gladly!

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    Default Re: EFNIR: Herbin Violette Pensée

    @LizEf, trees and shrooms, druids as long as we don't go the way of the weed, I'm fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    @LizEf, trees and shrooms, druids as long as we don't go the way of the weed, I'm fine
    No weed! No weeds! I have not yet discovered druids in the Wizardlands, but who knows what (or who) may lurk in some distant forest...

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    Default Re: EFNIR: Herbin Violette Pensée

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    Ur ink, I haz its. 🎉

    But mine is pale, pale, watery violet. And it's one of my first inks, and I refuse to calculate how long ago I got it, which would make me feel older than I really am.

    Is your bottle/sample newish? Maybe it is a color that fades. I find yours to be more appealing. But I use VP in a Pelikano Jr. with a yellow body and a cap matching the ink color.


    Liz, thanks so much for making Tuesdays (especially those with demonic voices emanating from my desktop) interesting and fun!

    Out of all ink colours I've found that purple ink is the most likely colour to fade/change as it ages. I had a bottle of Omas purple where at least one of the components completely welded itself to all of the inside surface of the bottle. The inky liquid that remained in the bottle was almost colourless. I've also had a couple of ink samples stick to the interiors of their vials in a similar way. I would recommend you should use purple inks young.
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    Default Re: EFNIR: Herbin Violette Pensée

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Out of all ink colours I've found that purple ink is the most likely colour to fade/change as it ages.
    This does not surprise me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    I had a bottle of Omas purple where at least one of the components completely welded itself to all of the inside surface of the bottle.
    I'm gonna guess it was a pinkish hue. (I find pink really likes to cling.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    The inky liquid that remained in the bottle was almost colourless. I've also had a couple of ink samples stick to the interiors of their vials in a similar way.
    That's interesting. Maybe you could have used it to make your own inks - like the stuff Birmingham sells, or De Atramentis Dilution Liquid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    I would recommend you should use purple inks young.
    Purple and iron gall, best used fresh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post

    I'm gonna guess it was a pinkish hue. (I find pink really likes to cling.)
    Like Barbie?

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    Default Re: EFNIR: Herbin Violette Pensée

    My Pensee has faded to about the color of Clairefontaine the grid/lines.
    My other pen is a Montblanc.

    And my other blog is a tumblr!


    And my latest ebook, for spooky wintery reading:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    My Pensee has faded to about the color of Clairefontaine the grid/lines.
    Oh, going to compare... Yeah, that's a lot of fading! The ink on my review page is much more vibrant, not pale / pastel at all in comparison.

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