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    Cool Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    Thanks @Lithium466 for the sample.
    This is a happy orangish yellow or vice verse, legible, wet, low lubrication and fun to use. Not suitable for copy paper, unless you use UEF, or EF nibs.
    Cleaning was easy.

    I prefer this J Herbin Bouton d’or.
    Colour is difficult to scan, photo is closest to the real deal. The comparison should give you an idea of the colour.


    Chroma:
    Chroma-R&K Helianthus.jpeg
    Writing Samples:
    Rhodia- R&KHelian.jpg

    Midori - R&KHelian.jpeg

    TR68gr- R&KHelian.jpeg

    Hammermill- R&KHelian.jpg

    Photo:
    Helianthus.jpg
    Comparison:
    Comparison-Helianthus.jpg
    Water test:
    Left side 10 seconds under running water
    The writing and sketch was done with a glass nib, hence the thicker lines.
    Watertest -R&K Helianthus.jpeg
    Art Work:
    A couple of art works:
    Will it rain?
    Other inks used:
    Noodler's Lexington Gray, a mystery purple and blue black ink.
    The light blue is Faber-Castell Aquarelle pencil
    Paper is Fabriano Sketchbook (super absorbent)

    20240618_084942.jpg.

    This one was inspired by Helianthus aka sunflower. It's entitled Shyness
    Noodler's Lexington Gray/ Eel Red Rattler's Red
    Kakimori Kurun
    The centre of sunflower is a mixture of Helianthus and Lexington Gray, mixed with a water brush.
    Paper is Talens pocket notebook.


    · Pens used: Kaweco (Reverse EF/Ef F/M/B, BB), Conway Stewart 330, Oblique flex (very wet)
    · What I liked: Gorgeous legible orange yellow.
    · What I did not like: Not waterproof
    · What some might not like: Not suitable for wet pens.
    · Shading: Some
    · Ghosting: Yes, on cheap paper.
    · Bleed through: A bit on on cheap paper.
    · Flow Rate: Wet
    · Lubrication: On the dry side.
    · Nib Dry-out: Did not notice.
    · Start-up: Ok
    · Saturation: Pastel
    · Shading Potential: It’s difficult to see shading with this colour.
    · Sheen: No.
    · Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice.
    · Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.
    · Staining (pen): No.
    · Clogging: Did not notice.
    · Cleaning: Easy
    · Water resistance: Dismal
    · Availability: 50 ml bottles.

    Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

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    Default Re: Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    Great review, Yazeh! The quotes made me smile. The swatch cards left me blind for several minutes after that De Atramentis Artist Yellow burn holes in my retinas! (And Bouton d'Or proceeded to make the holes bigger!) Helianthus, was a relief after those two! Love our little kitty and mouse enjoying a flower together. Mousey is a good friend, letting Kitty have a break from the rain / watering can... And now the art we've all been waiting for...

    I really like the texture you managed to get in the grey parts. And how Kitty's tie matches Mousey's outfit and umbrella. Poor kitty looks worried, though. "Will our poor flower die in the heat? Will Mousey's umbrella act like a lightning rod? Am I going to get drenched again?" And the pre-drench sunflower scene is sweet - and still some texture in the grey - very nice.

    Thanks for a very cheery review this Wednesday!

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    Default Re: Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    Great review, Yazeh!
    🙏🙏🙏

    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    The quotes made me smile.


    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    The swatch cards left me blind for several minutes after that De Atramentis Artist Yellow burn holes in my retinas! (And Bouton d'Or proceeded to make the holes bigger!) Helianthus, was a relief after those two!


    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    Love our little kitty and mouse enjoying a flower together. Mousey is a good friend, letting Kitty have a break from the rain / watering can... And now the art we've all been waiting for...
    It's funny how creation works. I had forgotten completely about the sunflower gift on the swatch


    Quote Originally Posted by LizEF View Post
    I really like the texture you managed to get in the grey parts. And how Kitty's tie matches Mousey's outfit and umbrella. Poor kitty looks worried, though. "Will our poor flower die in the heat? Will Mousey's umbrella act like a lightning rod? Am I going to get drenched again?" And the pre-drench sunflower scene is sweet - and still some texture in the grey - very nice.

    Thanks for a very cheery review this Wednesday!
    Inky water brush on absorbent paper
    The matching is the same colour, only one from the feed, the other from the convertor.
    Thank you so much for your encouraging and kind comments 🙏🙏🙏
    Last edited by Yazeh; June 19th, 2024 at 08:25 PM.

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    Default Re: Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    In my limited experience with R&K, their inks were always more trouble than they were worth.

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    Default Re: Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliant Bill View Post
    In my limited experience with R&K, their inks were always more trouble than they were worth.
    I'm curious to know which of their inks you find troublesome?
    In my experience the sketchInk line is prone to clogging. But most of the ink from their regular line are more than decent

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    Default Re: Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    My eyes! My eyes! *stumbles around*. Those first two comparison inks…. Yow.

    But the writing with Helianthus looks nice. In fact it looks more orange. I love orange inks. And of course your sketches. How unusual for Mousie to be the wet one while Kitteh stays dry. Shyness sketch is super-cute.

    A sunny summer ink? Yazeh, thanks for another of your wonderful Ink-splorations! Waiting for the next one.

    My other pen is a Montblanc.

    And my other blog is a tumblr!


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    Default Re: Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    My eyes! My eyes! *stumbles around*. Those first two comparison inks…. Yow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    But the writing with Helianthus looks nice. In fact it looks more orange. I love orange inks. And of course your sketches. How unusual for Mousie to be the wet one while Kitteh stays dry. Shyness sketch is super-cute.
    Thanks. Some on the other side where bothered that the cat god wet all the time, so I listened partially

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post

    A sunny summer ink? Yazeh, thanks for another of your wonderful Ink-splorations! Waiting for the next one.
    Thank you! So many inks, so little time

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    Default Re: Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    Well, it's been a long time since I touched any R&K, but here are a few notes:

    Their Morinda is the best red I've ever seen. I would make it my standard, but it washes away at even a hint of moisture.

    I have a note in my ink spreadsheet that their "Permanent Blue" also washed away in the rain.

    Another note says their Verdigras was mislabeled in the bottle. I don't know what color it actually was, but I had to dump it.

    I have a bottle labeled "Schreibtinte" that is too dry to be usable.

    As I said, it's been a long time so I don't even look at their products anymore.

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    Default Re: Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliant Bill View Post
    "Schreibtinte"
    ..Just means "writing ink" (or something like that). Some other text on the bottle would be the ink name. FYI. It could be one of their iron gall inks - these are famous for being dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliant Bill View Post
    Well, it's been a long time since I touched any R&K, but here are a few notes:

    Their Morinda is the best red I've ever seen. I would make it my standard, but it washes away at even a hint of moisture.

    I have a note in my ink spreadsheet that their "Permanent Blue" also washed away in the rain.

    Another note says their Verdigras was mislabeled in the bottle. I don't know what color it actually was, but I had to dump it.

    I have a bottle labeled "Schreibtinte" that is too dry to be usable.

    As I said, it's been a long time so I don't even look at their products anymore.
    Thanks for your insights. Much appreciated Yes most of them are not waterproof, (only Salix and Scabiosa are water resistant). And I remember something about mislabeled bottles

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    Default Re: Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    [QUOTE=LizEF;419568]
    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliant Bill View Post
    "Schreibtinte"
    ..Just means "writing ink" (or something like that). Some other text on the bottle would be the ink name. FYI. It could be one of their iron gall inks - these are famous for being dry.[



    Yes, it's an iron gall and blue in the bottle. It also smells awful and made me sneeze when I uncapped it a while ago.

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    Default Re: Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliant Bill View Post
    Yes, it's an iron gall and blue in the bottle. It also smells awful and made me sneeze when I uncapped it a while ago.
    Sounds like Salix.

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