Jacques Herbin 1670 - Turquoise de Perse

[Yazeh]

Jacques Herbin 1670 - Turquoise de Perse
A pure turquoise with gold shimmer, the 8th in the 1670 series.
Ink is very wet, slightly below average lubrication (like most turquoises), long dry times on Rhodia, feeble water resistant.

Color can both be reminiscent of turquoise gems or domes of mosques in Persia aka Iran.

I would’ve preferred it with a silver shimmer, I cannot see turquoise with gold, but then I don’t like shimmer, so it’s immaterial.

A note on the word, Perse (French for Persia) vs. Iran.
Persia is derived from the word Pārsa, Pars, Fars (name of a province in modern Iran), the Iranian tribe from which, Cyrus the Great, established the first Persian empire, in 550 BC. Note how the P evolved to F. The language spoken by Persian/Iranians is Farsi, which is derived from the word Pārsa.
Iran (pronounced Ēran), is derived from the Aryan, aka the lands of the Aryans (Iranian tribes), which refers to the tribes of Central Asia, who colonized India and the Iranian Plateau, some 2500 years ago, give or take.

It is my understanding when one uses the word Persia, one refers to the ancient empire, much like the Roman Empire.

Back to the ink, this is a pure turquoise, I don't see any green in it, despite what the scan wants you to believe. Check the photo of Iroful paper to get a good idea of the colour range.

Chroma:
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Writing Samples:
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Colour is off. There's no green.
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Photo:

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Comparison:


Water test:
Left side 10 seconds under running water. Sample written with a B nib.
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Art Work:
Surprisingly when added in copious amounts, there seems to be a hint of green. Note about the size of the papers. The first one is close to an A4 whilst the 2nd drawing is pocket size *
Part of Inktober challenge 2024. I lumped the 5 last prompts into one drawing, on a Bristol Paper. The prompt are in bold.
Jumbo the elephant, took to the road with the skilled Navigator, Mr. Cat and mouse who played the Violin in search of one of most iconic Landmarks, the Eiffel tower.
I used the following fountain pen inks on Bristol Paper
Jacques Herbin - Turquoise de Perse (applied generously)
Noodler's Apache Sunset/ Lexington Gray (Elephant/ mouse), Polar Brown (the road)
Diamine Celadon Cat (landscape)
Sailor Kiwa Guro (Mr. Cat)
Barock Umbra (Eiffel Tower)

Lighter application.
Lady Tatiana having a cup of tea
Paper is Talens mixed media pocket book.
Jacques Herbin Turquoise de Perse,
J Herbin Lie de Thé
Monblanc Origin Coral/ and mixed with a bit of Lie de Thé.
Noodler's Lexington Gray


· Pens used: Lamy (Reverse EF/EF/F/M/B/ Stub 1.1, Kanwrite with an Ahab flex nib.
· What I liked: I’m having an overload of turquoise inks
· What I did not like: It’s another turquoise.
· What some might not like: Long dry times, shimmer.
· Shading: Good.
· Ghosting: Yes, on Hammermill paper.
· Bleed through: Yes, on cheap paper.
· Flow Rate: Very wet
· Lubrication: Slightly below average.
· Nib Dry-out: Did not notice.
· Start-up: Ok
· Saturation: Pastel
· Shading Potential: It’s there.
· Sheen: No.
· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice.
· Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.
· Staining (pen): No.
· Clogging: Did not notice.
· Cleaning: Ok. But the shimmer might take some time
· Water resistance: Non-existent
· Availability: 50 bottles.

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

[LizEF]

The brief geographic and linguistic history lesson was interesting, thanks!

Midori seems to give it a little green... I like the shading and the shimmer makes it a little more interesting, but really, I'm over-turquoised... Perhaps it needs to be summer to appreciate this ink - it winter (which is what our weather is like already), it's too cold...

You picked some interesting quotes. And this set of swatch cards is too fun: Samurai kitty, beach kitty, demon kitty having a bad hair day , Persian kitty with fancy necklace, angel kitty... Meanwhile, poor water test kitty looks a little distressed, or maybe mildly amused....

I love the drawings! Thanks for another great review, Yazeh!

[Yazeh]

The brief geographic and linguistic history lesson was interesting, thanks! !

I had to find something interesting to say about the ink

Midori seems to give it a little green... !

It's not green. It's the scanner

I like the shading and the shimmer makes it a little more interesting, but really, I'm over-turquoised... Perhaps it needs to be summer to appreciate this ink - it winter (which is what our weather is like already), it's too cold...!

Same here, I'm over turquoise-d too Funny thing, sometime in February people here crave turquoise waters. Well to be honest a lot do already

You picked some interesting quotes.

I wanted to do a before, after. Contrast of sayinsg at the beginning, in the middle and near the end of the history.

And this set of swatch cards is too fun: Samurai kitty, beach kitty, demon kitty having a bad hair day , Persian kitty with fancy necklace, angel kitty... Meanwhile, poor water test kitty looks a little distressed, or maybe mildly amused....

Swatch Kitty's are often hit and miss I once had to take care of two prize winning Persian cats. They were the spookiest creatures, were perched on their high towers. The reminded me more of owls than cats.

I love the drawings! Thanks for another great review, Yazeh!

A pleasure!

[haroldawerben]

The ink’s color is really nice though, especially when you see it on different papers. I’ve also noticed the longer dry times on Rhodia! It’s one of those inks that’s a bit high-maintenance but still fun to use for the unique color.

[LizEF]

I had to find something interesting to say about the ink
...
It's not green. It's the scanner

I once had to take care of two prize winning Persian cats. They were the spookiest creatures, were perched on their high towers. The reminded me more of owls than cats.

Persian cats are possibly the most supercilious of cats.

[Yazeh]

The ink’s color is really nice though, especially when you see it on different papers. I’ve also noticed the longer dry times on Rhodia! It’s one of those inks that’s a bit high-maintenance but still fun to use for the unique color.

If you enjoy it that's the most important. I didn't find it that different on papers. But I have reviewed too many turquoises

[Yazeh]

Persian cats are possibly the most supercilious of cats.

That's an understatement

[sfarkhan]

Thank you for including the history of the name

[Yazeh]

Thank you for including the history of the name

A pleasure!

[Sailor Kenshin]

Big fan of turquoise ink, but there are so many! Like JH Bleu Pervenche, Lamy turquoise, etc, that I have. I like the name, Turquoise de Perse, and the history, and of course the artwork.

This seems a very cheerful summery color. Gold Shimmer, eh? I have some pens that can handle it.

Yazeh, thanks once again for making life colorful with your detailed, entertaining InkSplorations! *Keep ‘em coming!

[Yazeh]

Big fan of turquoise ink, but there are so many! Like JH Bleu Pervenche, Lamy turquoise, etc, that I have.

I like the name, Turquoise de Perse, and the history, and of course the artwork.

Good marketing. There's an Enlightenment period, work by Montesquieu, called Persian Letters. It's a fictional work about two "Persians" in Paris. Everyone points at them and talks about the, saying that they are truly Persians. So one of the guy decides to dress like Parisians. Afterwards, no one recognizes him as Persian any more. And when he tells someone he's Persian, the famous line is I]How can you be Persian?[/I]

This seems a very cheerful summery color. Gold Shimmer, eh? I have some pens that can handle it.

Yazeh, thanks once again for making life colorful with your detailed, entertaining InkSplorations! *Keep ‘em coming!

I'm sure you have a lot of pens can handle shimmer. Glad you enjoyed my review