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    Default Waterman - What is this?

    Found it in my pen box. The non says "WATERMAN'S REG. U.S. PAT. OFF (the meaning of which is clear) but that is all. Tarnish tells me sterling silver, it is a lever fill and the lever has the Waterman "Ideal" stamp. A loop on one end says to me it belongs on a chain. The other end says 452 and below that 1/2 V. It's tiny (to me) and I put it with the TWSBI 580 for comparison. It is engraved with a leaf and flower motif, with an area left on the body for engraving maybe? I have a vague recollection someone gave this to me but it's not sentimental.










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    Default Re: Waterman - What is this?

    Waterman's 452 1/2 not the filigree though. Looks like a keeper. Here is the filigree http://youtu.be/9s4O0pkUU2A

    It's not the same design as the Art Deco either.
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    Default Re: Waterman - What is this?

    I don't know what it is, but it's purdy!

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    Default Re: Waterman - What is this?

    Neat looking pen
    Expect the glass to break---------------And accept it.

    You’ll have peace of mind. And that, my friends, is a welcome surprise.

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    Default Re: Waterman - What is this?

    Well aren't you just a lucky person. That would fit so well in my waistcoat pocket, opposite my watch.

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    Default Re: Waterman - What is this?

    It's a purse pen or vest pocket pen. I found a similar pen made by Edison last year. Haven't had the time to restore it yet, unfortunately.

    Richard Binder's site has a chart for Waterman's numbering system. According to it, your pen is:

    • 4 = Sterling overlay, barrel and cap
    • 5 = Lever filler (LF)
    • 2 = Nib size (second smallest)


    • 1/2 = Slender model
    • V = Vest pocket (short) model
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    Default Re: Waterman - What is this?

    The pattern on this overlay is called Hand Engraved Vine. It was generally the most expensive of the commonly offered Waterman overlay patterns.
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    Default Re: Waterman - What is this?

    The image in the forum is really awesome as of the description

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    Default Re: Waterman - What is this?

    http://www.vintagepens.com/Waterman_...patterns.shtml
    Hand Engraved Vine. This was the most expensive of the standard catalogued overlay patterns, and the only one for which clips and levers were engraved to match.


    If you want to sell it let me know.... I have the same pen.... I would like to have a pair...

    Phil..

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