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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Quote Originally Posted by jbb View Post
    That's looking great Vert Olive!!!! Why does everyone's iron gall ink turn out darker than mine?????????
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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Quote Originally Posted by jbb View Post
    That's looking great Vert Olive!!!! Why does everyone's iron gall ink turn out darker than mine?????????
    JBB, I have tried the ink on onionskin and it dries to about half as dark. Does that figure in at all?
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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Excellent work, VO!

    The Newton version has the same dirty dishwater appearance as Blots IGI - interesting. How would you describe the viscosity?

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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyT View Post
    Excellent work, VO!

    The Newton version has the same dirty dishwater appearance as Blots IGI - interesting. How would you describe the viscosity?
    The gum arabic takes a day to dissolve, yesterday the viscosity seemed close to that of water for both recipes. I did write one pen pal letter with it, but it took more dips than usual since the ink seemed to slip right off the pen.
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    Hmmm. My reason for asking is because Blots is so very thin, closer to water than milk in consistency. Yet it clings to the nib and absolutely doesn't feather. I'd assumed that there was no binder, but maybe it just doesn't take much.

    Any thoughts on walnut ink? (I have an ulterior motive for asking this ...).

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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyT View Post
    Hmmm. My reason for asking is because Blots is so very thin, closer to water than milk in consistency. Yet it clings to the nib and absolutely doesn't feather. I'd assumed that there was no binder, but maybe it just doesn't take much.

    Any thoughts on walnut ink? (I have an ulterior motive for asking this ...).
    Remember, the first shot of the Newton is before it dried. Both inks look even lighter than that when first on the page, then they darken within minutes to the final result posted.

    No thoughts on walnut inks, but I am sure there are recipes out there. These got finished because DH wanted them out of his kitchen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VertOlive View Post
    Remember, the first shot of the Newton is before it dried. Both inks look even lighter than that when first on the page, then they darken within minutes to the final result posted.

    No thoughts on walnut inks, but I am sure there are recipes out there. These got finished because DH wanted them out of his kitchen!
    Here in Blighty, there are are two heavyweight players in the Uncompromising Iron Gall Ink for Calligraphers market: Blots and Brian Walker's Copperplate Ink. I haven't tried the latter yet, but will probably have to because Brian puts logwood in his, giving it the signal advantage of being visible when you write with it. Honestly - Blots starts out slightly murky and a few seconds later you get to see what you've written. Mind you, after five minutes it's positively Stygian.

    I've just made my first batch of walnut ink. The sheer bloody awfulness of the last few months put me right off letter writing (no pen friend of mine deserves to receive a catalogue of woes in the post, after all), but now that I'm snapping out of it I've a mind to send you the ingredients. It's absurdly easy if you're prepared to cheat, and the results are good.

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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VertOlive View Post
    Remember, the first shot of the Newton is before it dried. Both inks look even lighter than that when first on the page, then they darken within minutes to the final result posted.

    No thoughts on walnut inks, but I am sure there are recipes out there. These got finished because DH wanted them out of his kitchen!
    Here in Blighty, there are are two heavyweight players in the Uncompromising Iron Gall Ink for Calligraphers market: Blots and Brian Walker's Copperplate Ink. I haven't tried the latter yet, but will probably have to because Brian puts logwood in his, giving it the signal advantage of being visible when you write with it. Honestly - Blots starts out slightly murky and a few seconds later you get to see what you've written. Mind you, after five minutes it's positively Stygian.

    I've just made my first batch of walnut ink. The sheer bloody awfulness of the last few months put me right off letter writing (no pen friend of mine deserves to receive a catalogue of woes in the post, after all), but now that I'm snapping out of it I've a mind to send you the ingredients. It's absurdly easy if you're prepared to cheat, and the results are good.
    We'd love to see a walnut writing sample if you'd like to share!
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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    The white balance is a bit skew-whiff (and much else besides):

    walnut.jpg

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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Better colour rendering, and more shading:

    walnut2.jpg

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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyT View Post
    Better colour rendering, and more shading:

    walnut2.jpg
    Better handwriting too!
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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Quote Originally Posted by VertOlive View Post
    Better handwriting too!
    It's closely correlated to the amount of caffeine in the bloodstream, I find.

    So, should I send you some??

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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VertOlive View Post
    Better handwriting too!
    It's closely correlated to the amount of caffeine in the bloodstream, I find.

    So, should I send you some??
    1) Caffeine--Yes!

    2) Ink--Yes!!!

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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Okay, I shall pour some into the envelope.

    Andy's sage advice for the day: when writing with brown ink, it is advisable not to set one's espresso cup down next to the bottle. Just don't ask me how I know this, okay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyT View Post
    Okay, I shall pour some into the envelope.

    Andy's sage advice for the day: when writing with brown ink, it is advisable not to set one's espresso cup down next to the bottle. Just don't ask me how I know this, okay?
    Caffeinated Ink--Yess!
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    Default Re: The Mess in the Kitchen- Part I

    Bumping this after a pen pal inquiry.
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