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    Default Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    Ok so I have a few question about the Montblanc Meisterstück 146.

    -Does the Meisterstück 146 have the word "Pix"under the pen clip?

    -Is the Newer Model 2 tone (gold and silver)

    -In the newer model of the Meisterstück 146 , is the ink feed curvy or just flat like a mountain?

    Thank you for your time.

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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    -is the meisterstuck 146 fountain pen's nib 2 tone (gold and silver

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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    Quote Originally Posted by InkyThoughts12 View Post
    Ok so I have a few question about the Montblanc Meisterstück 146.

    -Does the Meisterstück 146 have the word "Pix"under the pen clip?

    -Is the Newer Model 2 tone (gold and silver)

    -In the newer model of the Meisterstück 146 , is the ink feed curvy or just flat like a mountain?

    Thank you for your time.
    Some do. Some don't.

    Are you talking about nibs? Then newer ones are gold nibs with IIRC Palladium overlay.

    Totally lost on the third question.

    Quote Originally Posted by InkyThoughts12 View Post
    -is the meisterstuck 146 fountain pen's nib 2 tone (gold and silver
    Answered above. You won't often see silver on nibs due to corrosion. There were some great PdAg (Palladium silver alloy) nibs made. most notably by Sheaffer.
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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

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    Totally lost on the third question.
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    Lol I mean is it like a wave, I found an image on the internet (I just typed "Meisterstück Ink feed, and I saw this)
    (Note: this image does not belong to me)

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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    Those feeds are from the 50's. The first is the flat ebonite ski slope feed and the second is a round ebonite feed. The flat version is the earlier version. When they re-introduced the 146 in the 70s they had a split ebonite feed. this continued through the 80's. After this you will find a plastic feed on the 146.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orfew View Post
    Those feeds are from the 50's. The first is the flat ebonite ski slope feed and the second is a round ebonite feed. The flat version is the earlier version. When they re-introduced the 146 in the 70s they had a split ebonite feed. this continued through the 80's. After this you will find a plastic feed on the 146.
    Thank you for the valuable information,

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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    Quote Originally Posted by InkyThoughts12 View Post
    Ok so I have a few question about the Montblanc Meisterstück 146.

    -Does the Meisterstück 146 have the word "Pix"under the pen clip?

    -Is the Newer Model 2 tone (gold and silver)

    -In the newer model of the Meisterstück 146 , is the ink feed curvy or just flat like a mountain?

    Thank you for your time.
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    -is the meisterstuck 146 fountain pen's nib 2 tone (gold and silver
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    Quote Originally Posted by orfew View Post
    Those feeds are from the 50's. The first is the flat ebonite ski slope feed and the second is a round ebonite feed. The flat version is the earlier version. When they re-introduced the 146 in the 70s they had a split ebonite feed. this continued through the 80's. After this you will find a plastic feed on the 146.
    Thank you for the valuable information,
    There is an even earlier 146 feed like the one on the left but without the ski tracks.



    All the new plastic feeds are slotted with a rounded profile IIRC.
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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    There is an even earlier 146 feed like the one on the left but without the ski tracks.



    All the new plastic feeds are slotted with a rounded profile IIRC.[/QUOTE]

    Thank you.

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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

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    -is the meisterstuck 146 fountain pen's nib 2 tone (gold and silver
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    Those feeds are from the 50's. The first is the flat ebonite ski slope feed and the second is a round ebonite feed. The flat version is the earlier version. When they re-introduced the 146 in the 70s they had a split ebonite feed. this continued through the 80's. After this you will find a plastic feed on the 146.
    Thank you for the valuable information,
    There is an even earlier 146 feed like the one on the left but without the ski tracks.



    All the new plastic feeds are slotted with a rounded profile IIRC.
    I have one last question...
    - I have seen some montblanc a say 14k and some say 14c, why? Is there a difference in the quality of the gold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InkyThoughts12 View Post
    I have one last question...
    - I have seen some montblanc a say 14k and some say 14c, why? Is there a difference in the quality of the gold?
    There is no difference in quality.

    The reason is actually twofold. In the 50s and 60s the term 'carat' was abbreviated as 'C' by Montblanc; later the German standard changed to 'K' and so MB changed what they used.

    But often the reason is simply ignorance and sloppiness and the folk writing the advertising use the two interchangeably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkyThoughts12 View Post
    I have one last question...
    - I have seen some montblanc a say 14k and some say 14c, why? Is there a difference in the quality of the gold?
    There is no difference in quality.

    The reason is actually twofold. In the 50s and 60s the term 'carat' was abbreviated as 'C' by Montblanc; later the German standard changed to 'K' and so MB changed what they used.

    But often the reason is simply ignorance and sloppiness and the folk writing the advertising use the two interchangeably.
    Remember I said I had only one last question... Yeah

    I have a few more

    Montblanc makes two versions of the Meisterstück; 'Le grand' and 'classique'

    What is the difference between these? Beside the 'le grand' being grand (big) and the classique being petit (small)

    I heard from a friend of mine that the classique uses cartridges... Is this true?

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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    I believe Classique uses carts and the LeGrand is piston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomdeplume View Post
    I believe Classique uses carts and the LeGrand is piston.
    The Meisterstück Legrand cost too much compared to the normal version, this isn't quite fair! I could buy a Pelikan souverän M1000 instead,
    But it's the love I have for montblanc
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    The Meisterstück Legrand cost to much compared to the normal, this isn't fair!
    Very little in life is fair. Like scratches on a nib.
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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InkyThoughts12 View Post
    The Meisterstück Legrand cost to much compared to the normal, this isn't fair!
    Very little in life is fair. Like scratches on a nib.

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    Default Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

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    Very little in life is fair.
    I guess that's what makes life fun,
    People look at what you bought; they become jealous, because they can't afford it.
    Talk about showing off
    It's dirty but fun
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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    Quote Originally Posted by InkyThoughts12 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nomdeplume View Post
    I believe Classique uses carts and the LeGrand is piston.
    The Meisterstück Legrand cost to much compared to the normal, this isn't fair! I could buy a Pelikan souverän M1000 instead,
    But it's the love I have for montblanc
    There is a big difference in size between the Pelikan 1xxx and MB 146. Closed the MB 146 and the Pelikan 800 are about the same...



    but opened or posted the Pelikan 800 is slightly longer.





    The nib shapes are also quite different with the MB 146 usually giving a slightly softer but firmer feel than the Pelikan 800.

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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomdeplume View Post
    I believe Classique uses carts and the LeGrand is piston.
    If I make no mistake, 144 was Classique (discontinued, replaced with 145- Chopin, renamed to Classique), uses carts, and LeGrand is 146, piston filler...

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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    Yes, as far as I know there is no 146 Classique. That was the 144 when it became cartridge/converter (blech). There are a ton, I mean a ton of 146s out there. If you buy from a reputable seller, or from a collector at a pen show you don't have to worry nearly so much about fakes and the prices can be quite good. I just got an early 1980s 146 (ebonite feed, single tone 14k nib) for $225 at a pen show. That's far, far less than you'll spend for a new one today and the pen writes just as well (which is wonderfully). If there are any pen shows near you I suggest going.
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    Default Re: Questions about the montblanc meisterstück 146

    "Classique" and "Le Grand" are subcategories within the Meisterstuck line. They do not equate to "piston vs. cartridge" classification.

    Case in point: The 147 Le Grand Traveler which is nearly (or exactly, depending when yours was made) the same size as the 146 Le Grand, yet the 147 uses cartridges (converters won't fit) and the 146 utilizes a piston mechanism.

    Ultimately, "Classique" is a fancy word for "entry line."

    You have a right to be cautious of fakes. HOWEVER, I have yet to see someone produce any sort of proof (even a picture) of a replica/fake 146. I have seen 2-3 over the past several years, but they were such awful copies, even a beginning collector could spot them. To put it into perspective, they one was a baby blue color, and the other was a fire/flame design on the outside. Their piston mechanisms (if you want to call them that) consisted of a cheap plastic stem I'd expect to be found in a bottle of $2 cleaning solution.

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