Fountain Pens in Movies and TV

[Yazeh]

It looks like a C&S Churchill loaded with (ahem) Noodlers ink to me.

Noodler's didn't exist @ 1961

True. I was thinking now though.

But maybe Nathan was inspired by that scene to make fountain pen inks, ie. subconsciously....

[carlos.q]

Maybe it's a Parker Duofold with some washable Quink...

[catbert]

A Nazi with a Parker 51 in the trailer for American Traitor: The Trial of Axis Sally.

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[Yazeh]

Isn't that an anachronism?

[guyy]

Isn't that an anachronism?

It’s rather unlikely that a Nazi would have a 51 during the war, but it would still be possible. After the war, it would have been easier to get one. Still unlikely, but less so.

[catbert]

Isn't that an anachronism?

It’s rather unlikely that a Nazi would have a 51 during the war, but it would still be possible. After the war, it would have been easier to get one. Still unlikely, but less so.

Certainly there would have been supply issues. Length of clip suggests a later model, I think.

Judging from generally poor reviews, historical accuracy of props is not the biggest criticism of that movie.

[Yazeh]

Isn't that an anachronism?

It’s rather unlikely that a Nazi would have a 51 during the war, but it would still be possible. After the war, it would have been easier to get one. Still unlikely, but less so.

Certainly there would have been supply issues. Length of clip suggests a later model, I think.

Judging from generally poor reviews, historical accuracy of props is not the biggest criticism of that movie.

That I don't doubt.
However, I find it unlikely that a Nazi would use an American pen in time of war. Unless he stole the girl's Parker 51 and made her sign with it

[INeedAFinancialAdvisor]

A Nazi with a Parker 51 in the trailer for American Traitor: The Trial of Axis Sally.

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I agree with those above, the cap/clip are incorrect (at a minimum)
the cap looks like it has no band/lip at the bottom which would make it a later Aerometric cap
the clip is silver in colour. Per the Shepherd "51" book, it appears only two types of cap had a blue diamond AND a silver coloured clip: raised wedding band and Jeweler's band (i've seen it called stacked coin cap) (see page 90 of the book)
And the non blue diamond clip was only introduced in 1947. This having apparently happened DURING the war means that at that time all clips would have had a blue diamond.
so yeah, nah, historical accuracy was clearly not important, at least not to the prop department. :P
I guess there were no Pelikan's available in Hollywood :P

[guyy]

The Fassbinder movies like the Marriage of Maria Braun were fairly accurate as far as pens go. Also, Malick’s Days of Heaven.

[carlos.q]

From the 2018 version of "Tomb Raider" with Alicia Vikander, a fountain pen is used to sign some documents. It looks like a Montegrappa...

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[Boston Brian]

Maybe the Parker 51 was taken off a dead Allied soldier, in the way that Allied soldiers looked for good Swiss watches on dead German soldiers. Eisenhower, Monty and Patton all owned an used a Parker 51 during some part of WWII.

[INeedAFinancialAdvisor]

Maybe the Parker 51 was taken off a dead Allied soldier, in the way that Allied soldiers looked for good Swiss watches on dead German soldiers. Eisenhower, Monty and Patton all owned an used a Parker 51 during some part of WWII.

Possible. But far more likely that the prop department was lazy IMO

[guyy]

Maybe the Parker 51 was taken off a dead Allied soldier, in the way that Allied soldiers looked for good Swiss watches on dead German soldiers. Eisenhower, Monty and Patton all owned an used a Parker 51 during some part of WWII.

Possible. But far more likely that the prop department was lazy IMO

It all depends on when the scene was supposed to happen. It’s titled the “Trial of Axis Sally”; presumably much of the film is set after 1945.

[INeedAFinancialAdvisor]

Maybe the Parker 51 was taken off a dead Allied soldier, in the way that Allied soldiers looked for good Swiss watches on dead German soldiers. Eisenhower, Monty and Patton all owned an used a Parker 51 during some part of WWII.

Possible. But far more likely that the prop department was lazy IMO

It all depends on when the scene was supposed to happen. It’s titled the “Trial of Axis Sally”; presumably much of the film is set after 1945.

It’s in the trailer at 50 seconds
It is a nazi asking her to sign an oath of allegiance to the reich. Very much during the war. Assuming that the audio and video in that cut belong together.

[carlos.q]

From the rather convoluted 1970 spy movie "The Kremlin Letter", Patrick O'Neal writes with what looks like a Parker 51 desk pen. In the movie the pen is originally stuck in an ill fitting red socket you can see by his right arm. As this scene takes place in Moscow maybe we should believe this a Soyuz pen?

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[aurore]

Yves Montand used MB 149 in "La menace" and Waterman Gentleman 44 (a golden pen with "Super 6 nib") in "I... comme Icare".
Will upload some screenshots later

[Yazeh]

In case this has not been posted yet:

Tom Wilkinson in Denial 2018:

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The judge writing his verdict:
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blurry close up of the judge's nib:

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I let the pundits identify the pens

[catbert]

First one could be a Pilot Varsity.

[catbert]

The director's pen and shooting notes in Varda by Agnès.

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[Yazeh]

First one could be a Pilot Varsity.

He's a barrister. But then his character enjoys drinking good wine in plastic cups