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    Default Paper For Fountain Pens Large B5 Journal UK Group Buy?

    Paper for Fountain Pens now has a B5 Journal for $44 and I'd like to buy 2 - except the postage is $60!!
    However for this shipping cost you can get up to 12 Journals delivered.
    So I suggest that others may wish to join me in a Group order, the journals will be delivered to me and I will send them on within the UK.
    Any takers?

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    4 books taken so far!!

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    6 now!!

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    Now 7.

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    The total of journals requested is now up to 9.

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    Default Re: Paper For Fountain Pens Large B5 Journal UK Group Buy?

    Will you only know the exact price for each one on receipt?

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    Default Re: Paper For Fountain Pens Large B5 Journal UK Group Buy?

    The Journals are $44, the shipping cost will be $6 each from the US = $50. This is approx £32.
    The VAT/Customs fee would be 20% (if charged) = £6.40 plus £8 handling fee, so assuming it is charged that would be £6.40+£0.66 each.
    Total £39.06 each plus UK postage. Small Parcel confirmed delivery = £ 3.90 2nd class or £4.30 1st class.
    So total cost = £42.96 or £43.36 (at most).

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    10 Journals now accounted for.

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    Default Re: Paper For Fountain Pens Large B5 Journal UK Group Buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by alc3261 View Post
    The Journals are $44, the shipping cost will be $6 each from the US = $50. This is approx £32.
    The VAT/Customs fee would be 20% (if charged) = £6.40 plus £8 handling fee, so assuming it is charged that would be £6.40+£0.66 each.
    Total £39.06 each plus UK postage. Small Parcel confirmed delivery = £ 3.90 2nd class or £4.30 1st class.
    So total cost = £42.96 or £43.36 (at most).
    alc, at the risk of going OT, you would be losing money on your calculation. Assuming 12 journals the total 'Vatable' value (including shipping!) of the parcel at the current HM R&C rate converts to £360.18. That will be the value that VAT is charged on. So the total would be £432.22 plus your £8, which I assume you know for sure because it sounds very cheap. I think it's more likely to be £13. You could save a bit by just using ordinary RM 1st or 2nd class when you dispatch. Signatures aren't worth the extra, and you're still covered by RM with a COP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alc3261 View Post
    The Journals are $44, the shipping cost will be $6 each from the US = $50. This is approx £32.
    The VAT/Customs fee would be 20% (if charged) = £6.40 plus £8 handling fee, so assuming it is charged that would be £6.40+£0.66 each.
    Total £39.06 each plus UK postage. Small Parcel confirmed delivery = £ 3.90 2nd class or £4.30 1st class.
    So total cost = £42.96 or £43.36 (at most).
    alc, at the risk of going OT, you would be losing money on your calculation. Assuming 12 journals the total 'Vatable' value (including shipping!) of the parcel at the current HM R&C rate converts to £360.18. That will be the value that VAT is charged on. So the total would be £432.22 plus your £8, which I assume you know for sure because it sounds very cheap. I think it's more likely to be £13. You could save a bit by just using ordinary RM 1st or 2nd class when you dispatch. Signatures aren't worth the extra, and you're still covered by RM with a COP.
    The saving on the UK postage there would be pence. The concern would be the amount of VAT which could be charged and Yes I did forget to include the shipping in that. I'll have a re-calculate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alc3261 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alc3261 View Post
    The Journals are $44, the shipping cost will be $6 each from the US = $50. This is approx £32.
    The VAT/Customs fee would be 20% (if charged) = £6.40 plus £8 handling fee, so assuming it is charged that would be £6.40+£0.66 each.
    Total £39.06 each plus UK postage. Small Parcel confirmed delivery = £ 3.90 2nd class or £4.30 1st class.
    So total cost = £42.96 or £43.36 (at most).
    alc, at the risk of going OT, you would be losing money on your calculation. Assuming 12 journals the total 'Vatable' value (including shipping!) of the parcel at the current HM R&C rate converts to £360.18. That will be the value that VAT is charged on. So the total would be £432.22 plus your £8, which I assume you know for sure because it sounds very cheap. I think it's more likely to be £13. You could save a bit by just using ordinary RM 1st or 2nd class when you dispatch. Signatures aren't worth the extra, and you're still covered by RM with a COP.
    The saving on the UK postage there would be pence. The concern would be the amount of VAT which could be charged and Yes I did forget to include the shipping in that. I'll have a re-calculate.
    Correction I did calculate VAT at 20% of the Journal price + Shipping $50=£32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alc3261 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alc3261 View Post
    The Journals are $44, the shipping cost will be $6 each from the US = $50. This is approx £32.
    The VAT/Customs fee would be 20% (if charged) = £6.40 plus £8 handling fee, so assuming it is charged that would be £6.40+£0.66 each.
    Total £39.06 each plus UK postage. Small Parcel confirmed delivery = £ 3.90 2nd class or £4.30 1st class.
    So total cost = £42.96 or £43.36 (at most).
    alc, at the risk of going OT, you would be losing money on your calculation. Assuming 12 journals the total 'Vatable' value (including shipping!) of the parcel at the current HM R&C rate converts to £360.18 (£384). That will be the value that VAT is charged on. So the total would be £432.22(£460.80) plus your £8, which I assume you know for sure because it sounds very cheap (Parcelforce handling charge is £8). I think it's more likely to be £13. You could save a bit by just using ordinary RM 1st or 2nd class when you dispatch. Signatures aren't worth the extra, and you're still covered by RM with a COP.
    Total cost to reach me £468.80 plus UK postage £3.90 or £4.30
    Cost per Journal £39.06 plus Postage
    My calculations in bold.

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    Default Re: Paper For Fountain Pens Large B5 Journal UK Group Buy?

    Glad it works out. If you need the exact conversion rate that HM C&E use on any given day, it is Here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Glad it works out. If you need the exact conversion rate that HM C&E use on any given day, it is Here.
    It would all depend on the day the package hits HMRC!!

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    Those rates apply until the end of October. In November they will change for that month.

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    Just wondering, are we any further on with this?
    We look forward to the time when the power of love will replace the love of power. Then will our world know the blessings of peace.

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    Waiting for Jay to get back to me.

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    Do you think you'll have them in time for the Sheffield show?
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    Hope to.

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    Excellent, so looking forward to getting my hands on one of these!
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