I'm contemplating getting a Pilot 823/743 but not sure what nib tip size. Has anyone (or can someone) measure the line width of the EF / F / M nibs and post it with what ink they used? Thank you!
I'm contemplating getting a Pilot 823/743 but not sure what nib tip size. Has anyone (or can someone) measure the line width of the EF / F / M nibs and post it with what ink they used? Thank you!
See if this thread helps:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpen...om_742_vs_743/
https://kmpn.blogspot.com/2011/06/pilot-custom.html
Measuring is actually kind of difficult, even with a scale loupe. Ink consistency is a variable, but so is paper and nib adjustment.
Can I ask if you have a pen you really like? A Lamy Safari EF, for example, will correspond to a Pilot F approximately.
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If it isn't mentioned in the threads above, nibs.com has this tipping chart that shows the physical measurement of the tines. As dneal pointed out, written line width is dicey due to the ink/paper variables, so about the only hard gauge to go by is measuring the tip. Then you have to account for flow, etc. Anyway, it's a start, though.
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dneal (January 4th, 2023)
I think you can see a sample writing on Gourmet pens' site:
I'm not sure if this is the nib you're talking about..
http://www.gourmetpens.com/2021/04/p...ntain-pen.html
I measure with loop and calipers and it seems pretty easy. That being said here is a list:
Pilot Kokuno - F - pretty nice
Pilot Kokuno - EF - might be slightly skinny for me but acceptable (would not want thinner - between Kokuno F and EF would be great!)
Pilot Vanishing Point - F - slightly too wide
Opus 88 (Jowo #6) - EF - slightly wider than Pilot VP (no good)
Pilot Prera - M - Definitely too wide
There were all tested on same paper with same ink.
Lloyd (January 11th, 2023)
dneal (January 11th, 2023)
Well, yes... as I believe I mentioned, the only really hard data you can gather is a precise measurement of the tines at the tip, so that you can compare nib to nib what the width of the business end of the nib is. Beyond that, all bets are off - paper, ink choice, nib/feed setup and even user pressure (horrors!) can affect the line as printed on the page. Those variables will always be there, and the exact same nib can lay down different line width if you change some of those variables. Hence my suggestion to measure the metal.
"When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick;
and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."
~ Benjamin Franklin
Cool Breeze (January 12th, 2023), dneal (January 12th, 2023)
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